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Down thirteen we call the border hoping
to order all members of President.

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Bush or your preferred what I think
there are back oh oh we have already.

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Done this. Again in were here before
everybody they were they didn't know.

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I was encouraging everybody to think
people be oh. Yeah this is the first lady

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who. Are here just here and.

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You are going to do with.

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Your Records On the tables and on the back
of the old record mass miscible so she

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has several called in with you
folks probably from something

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a little bit more than on the tobacco
control director for most officers this is.

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So I think I'll be doing tonight is just
going through you kind of had the dog and

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pony show last meeting that's different
products to the same thing it's

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a refresher

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a small portable products Thank You have
got their prices. If you want you there

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are more things right you need to shop in
this area right that is typically. Some

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of what's not new we brought is that
we brought the samples that we use for

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secondhand smoke to have for sale tobacco
and that I have here by listening to the

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hot topics and what other cities towns
have done so I think it makes that we have

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less good friend he has one it's
easier faster to go to T.X.

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Second answer do you work for the
Department of Public Health we both run the

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grants so I mean Show am

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a whole grants through the
only way to do this. Then is

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a. Yes pushes health boards also as

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a person. Who does potentially do as well.

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So your second hand smoke regulation is
pretty up to date just so just to you would

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I have

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a nice files for you that passes down
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You know. Happy to. Follow
along. So the state passed

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a smoke free workplace smoke free workplace
law years ago and it's been in place

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it's been very successful it has

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a bunch of exceptions and some cities and
towns go beyond that and those exceptions

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and so you had two thousand three regulations
and your leave going beyond it is

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that you have

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a twenty foot buffer zone outside the
entrances you know what buildings which was

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he's in town still they also have a
separate. Thing here that I think you have

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a. Smoke free playgrounds PARK
SPEECH Leary's immigration

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so he's. So so this lets you know this you
know you're good stead but if you want

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to update your rig to this sick sample it's
kind of the streamlined version of it I

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can make it up to put these two things
into it and any other area that you may

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think that. You want to go beyond the state
law clearly I can tell you the popular

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places that that happens is. To
ban smoking in cars which is

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the long term stable of that allows honest
very certain conditions very specific

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conditions. Cigar bars and
who go bars everything is.

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So I see some towns that don't have those
already like to put that in so you don't

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get one the reason for not getting one is
that. It breaks that level playing field

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that all your restaurants and bars enjoy
and so was that so that they feel slighted

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that somebody went ahead and did this
then who could present some whole host of

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SANJAY code issues because people you
know it's going to be this thing in the

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middle with basically be up on their we
all poses that we pay twenty bucks to get

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a hose on their own special flavor so the
sanitation sanitary issues that you can

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imagine so we do recommend
if you don't have

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a right to have some like that and I don't
believe you do this in the state where

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it's only thirteen or fourteen
they first have to get a deal are

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a permit to do so it's not

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a bad thing to just say when I got. These
And then I know another place and it is I

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would do a dining. Price There's

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a bunch of variations out there with
most common want to say wherever there's

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waitstaff outside has to be smoke free so
they still protect the waitstaff and we

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get a lot of plates about and this but
Boston is basically done because you get

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a lot of complaints from people who are
like I want to set aside just the preferred

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seating but can't because that's where the
smoking is and then that smoke on the

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outside patio oftentimes going back in
to the restaurant so that's just some of

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those are two things to ponder there not
you know that's not if you're really

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talking about sales part of this but. And
you see on there you see on the checklist

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and in the reading with language.

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So the sales regulation is the other
regularly the latest requests we're here.

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And it's the same news we're going to we're
going to see lastly the empty her life

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down so you just know that actually we've
always known I need to see. Oh. Oh

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oh right. OK maybe that. Left me.
And I actually did take like

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that. Through.

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The. Room we want. To
break so if you don't.

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We can go down the list but if you have
if you mean the end of decisions about

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certain months just tell me to stop talking
and. Nobody gave you some questions the

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phones OK we're going to exit on some of
those. But these are the first going that

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checklist the seventeen point checklist
The first is two hundred nineteen Bluey

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products at this point in
time so that it's a it's

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a. I know other than that all the you could
think up but if the guy who did what it

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does does intend to do right now cigarettes
electronic cigarettes is the only thing

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left gets into it but in my time doing
this job we've seen two liter bottles of

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nicotine water and nicotine always
pops come on off the market so this is

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a rare instance I would try to get ahead
of the industry and happy encapsulated

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with this figure to whom not only English
like cigarettes Bill anything out there

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that is contains nicotine but doesn't
pay untainted bacco so be outside your

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current regulations and is not F.D.A.

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Approved so this isn't a patch this isn't

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a correct this is we are products that
will pop up trite that what our purpose is

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to keep kids from getting nicotine and
then someday moving on to say your tobacco

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so this captures that in the same way that
campus tobacco vending machines no sales

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minors cell service place it gets infused
the whole regulation so that's our

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intense. Questions on that and

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a quick question for me right now you
say basically the only thing. That this

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really applies to as the smoke the cigar
overrides electronic thinking about me.

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But if we adopt is regulation will it only
be for electronic cigarettes no because

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it has that it has

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a definition of price and
we'll see if. You're

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at electronics and read this page for half
way get us definitions for it so goes

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with I just went through in the last sentence
says nick named Lee Brice include But

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no but are not limited to the cigarettes
that captures what track cigarettes but

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goes beyond that in Jack in

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a proactive move to try to help
with the industry in the rear.

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Clearly where it's unsettling so usually
way behind the scenes they have you know.

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Focus groups right now going on fifty kids
somewhere in the States trying to figure

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all of that is to sell and sell so the
second number two on the list is the station

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sign requirement as a separate
sign for retailers who have

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a tobacco sales permit which
under this would be called

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a complex nicotine delivery product
sales and tobacco sales permit. For

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a long time we are trying to figure
out how to have a sign that having

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a quick line on it but there were some
lawsuits around the country on this that you

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couldn't induce

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a retailer to come since their customers
to Clayton all this stuff and then just

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one day casually talking to the kitchen
is the back to a gradual process goes

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a process requiring this for right five
years of the problem is so is the bottom

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side has to quit line number on that which
is our statewide smoke free quit lying

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that toll free quit line that it's been
sports he's in English and it's our one

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Swe So it's our biggest resource helping
current smokers to quit so it'll be in the

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say it will require. Are that science is
it free yet the signs are pretty sure it

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will always be free yes because the only
thing I would consider also putting on

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extra costs on our signs for free they
could know the organizers Sherry's their

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sanity not by eleven so that way
because we can order them from

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a clearing house in the mail them to you
or you can print them on the printer color

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printer or even tell your permit to
do it themselves. I know there are

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a lot of the state laws Yeah anyone
getting out here more real than I do in

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fact. Good. Number three is that it is the

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third sign and that's just if one of your
permit nice wants selling cigarettes

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is just

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a sign that says the cigarettes can't be
sold kids and that. Your cigarette may not

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be. Determine who's maybe buying it may be
pretty good printed in the town that you

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want to use a good thing just as

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a warning that because you know
this is selling these things

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a lot of times it's for smokers to use it
anywhere they want it but we lost season

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towels that's why first it's just
around. That type of person.

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This is what happened this is what's happening
statewide. And the first one you'll

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see. These are the cities and towns
that have expanded to include all the

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electronics of cigarettes and the people.
And of this fifty eight thirty five of

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them also banned the use of. Nicotine
cigarettes anywhere the state bar is and

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that's in the east that's only E.T.S.

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Samples so are these nicotine delivery
products allowed to be sell so to mine and

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then yes right now you know
eighteen. Unless you have

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a. Their trade substation you know that
electronic cigarette makers have their own

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trade association and they recommend done
there. Website to not sell to kids so

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it's not something that will. They'll be
found and so the scientists this is really

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reminding kids that they can enter my
work and there's no cost right now Livy

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pages making it that sideways that we just
plain black and it's I think some taken

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out we are going to defend it everybody
Richard Nixon you know because.

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Number four is just that in the
in those conditions to get

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a permit we now include. A section
that says he had to have that as

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a state license holder we expect you to
comply with all the rules of the master.

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Pricing. This fall is very kin to your
local licensing because you like your

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license is say something very similar I
will say right now we're in the Ph D.

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You are a body that's
about pricing hopefully

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a pill so that's fair So this is the one
area that actually. Dio and they are going

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to get rid of the pricing is very complex
for them to do but this is the one area

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that both E.P.A.

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Age and the industry like living in stress
of like some place because without it

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you are just going down down down down down
and we want to keep the prices this is

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where I had problems. Which
thought that the minimum

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pricing was not a tax increase but they
understood that it was you know this is

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a separate tax increase on the governor's
budget so what this does is D.P.H.

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Has done

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a deal where as to the spheres. So they
hold the they actually have on their

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website. A list of every single not
only brand but submarines so I was

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like I'm over red not

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a red line over red light number one goal
and what if it goes on and on and they

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list a minimum price. And then

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a story change story that's been going on
for years but there's exceptions to it

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and so your arse just is tired of dealing
with the exceptions so they just they

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want to back the whole thing. Back three
masted ph over and Green Green Star Search

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Engine or consultation with the governor
of this week about India or stacked or

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probably so has some of it separate from
the ten dollar increase that the governor

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has

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a budget and. This was specific to the
list that were packaged to his governor's

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budget the governor's budget Starkey
cigarettes and then. A tax increase comparable

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for these kind of projects but these right
sacks OK but these products get taxed

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very differently they get they
get taxed on weight. And X.

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Amount you know thousand unit labor how
big they cost like fifty cents right then

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and it looks like you know any any kid
even though it's illegal for kids to buy

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these products I don't know why I would
have to increase the cost of them because

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they shouldn't be mine in many way but if
they are buying them it is fifty cents

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and now we say we want the minimum price
including we want to be two dollars fifty

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cents which holds getting that extra
money which is the person selling

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him making money is getting
the money poor isn't

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a tax hike from the
state. When we do that.

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I can do it so the whole sick thing so
this is the history this is the history of

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it the short answer is.
The retailer. Is probably

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not losing their make some retailers make
big money out of this one take away so

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Boston realized

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a couple years ago that state wide and
their data showed this to that user buying

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more cigarettes that they buy more of
this. Rather than cigarettes and this has

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been true state licensed twenty eleven.
So Boston stole language from the city of

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Baltimore that said if you're going to
sell these if you can sell cigars you must

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sell them in packs of
four for example this is

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a pack of. Black and miles of
sugary particles kids like

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a mild surprise the are hot people with
kids until we call result time off hip hop

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if you it's

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a rap they all know black you know this
every single thing that every head over

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fourteen knows that blacks would not sign
them but that's beside the point and so

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but you'll see that this is where marks
but in all the four bucks so so in Boston

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you can sell this at market rate. If
you choose to sell a single cigar than

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a single cigar must be sold at two fifty
seven. This was the sixty nine cents on

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this grapes ago. But I says we don't care
if the sixty minutes outside you have

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sells for two fifty eight so all I want
to know is where is that extra money down

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the retailer and it's not

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a tax now and in fact what we
learned this scheme Cicare

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a little why don't they raise the price
on their loan it would be more profitable

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for because their moorings
the state forcing

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a chart of the food from the grocery and
what they'll tell you if you go this route

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you'll get letters from Whoopi in store so
she actions as such as we'll tell you is

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that they will think that it does two
things number one that is. That adults

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because they'll never get the kids about
them are dull customers won't come in and

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buy as many of these as as many of those
are great and we like to see them every

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single day because they come in they buy
this the newspaper the coffee we don't

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want them buying this plus if you sell this
to them they'll smoke more because the

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of these in their possession but we live
that already with single cigarettes are

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sold for twenty five cents and just because
we now force mission Why people to buy

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packs of twenty doesn't mean that this will
be twenty times more you know it still

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goes down. So yes so in Boston we saw some
but there's some place we it was it's

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a hot topic so let it sit for

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a year we other cities and towns past and
you'll see that it's. The second time to

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take to these in the cities and towns that
are put in place but you'll see buses

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went to the banks every day of twenty twenty
twelfth we didn't let the next one go

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into effect until parklands January thirteenth
trying to thirteen we want to let We

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want to see how it played out and the way
it's practically playing out is that half

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the retailers. Sold down their single
stuff and they're only selling these the

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other half have also selling
these. So they're making

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a killing actually because they play games
for like thirty cents and seven hundred

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thirty nine some profit they
make two dollars twenty cents

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a week and then we learned from our to
backtrack to who represents the greater new

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area he was talking to

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a retailer who said the distributors giving
these to me for free. And you saw them

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separately but. Then this is this is now
getting attached to six so getting him on

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his state only thing the only benefit the
tack to he's really going to live because

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the only state difference would mean
that in this they're getting probably

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a three percent three cent sales tax and
it goes up to fifty making whatever that

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sales tax isn't. So
that's the difference so.

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Practically it was playing out and now
spending here we're trying to get some data

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out of Boston it makes logical sense

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a kid to buy these less if they were to
fifty I would try to get data out of us and

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see how it's going the industry's provided
no data that anybody's losing any money

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you know if it were Trust
me they were if they found

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a retail prices of money they'd be parading
that person around the city. I've seen

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that. The industry has Philip Morris
by this company so they hired

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a lobbyist to try to get

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a retailer succumb to the hearings because
they know this this really does affect

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them. And so we think this is

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a very effective step in getting kids
to stop smoking and one one little side

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so cigarettes in the by federal law can't
be sold anything but plain menthol any

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more so there was

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a time though that camel had Caribbean
mist. And there are other kinds of flavors

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those are all gone but the industry went
off of this and that's why Philip Morris

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The Because these come in wine flavor What
kid would want to ask if it hasn't been

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there done that well you
know you should be have

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a look in the cigar people have better
lobbyists that I say are people basically

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stuff so. The next step though is both
the city of Providence and New York City

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have banned all this flavored stuff as
well but it's still too hot legally for us

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to touch the city's town store in town
sized having to we don't hear us because

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they believe their health board has their
own legal product but we don't mind if we

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go I mean you're

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a drinker and we do if you're here if
your town is you wouldn't laugh if we you

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know thank you for being with us so we're
being cautious about somebody we are so

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that's the the triple threat to these are
they're cheap they're single and they're

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highly flavored and but and the reason
that the high flavor is they want to go

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after kids they will stand there and say
straight faced I am fly. You know why some

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customers are in the forty's and
fifty's who the joy of find grapes

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a guy that I mean it's just not
is one of. Them was a very is

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a question I have though and in this is
where I stand for the you know is that the

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I'm I'm all for the fines so I say what
is our current line if the minor buys one

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of those or two of those

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a time of the fine and yeah yeah I know but
what you don't know what it is you know

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you just go way over you are way up
there correct where my nose. You have

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three hundred sixteen ounce albums which I
was going to have this discussion about

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how it's going you know I think that's
what we wanted we're going to hire us time

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yeah to have higher fines and we didn't
know how high we could go I hurried out of

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the question you had to say
I don't know thirteen or

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a hundred two hundred three hundred we want
to go to thirty five and Revolver OK so

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what I think are going to really that's one
hundred I was in Jordan the second but

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I wish him three hundred for the purple
What happens oftentimes going out there

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like this is something to sell so it's.
Whole history of the just me and.

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Right now sort of this is no status no limit
to what the town can put in the going

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to be hiring his new friend in two thousand
so OK so I headed to south of where you

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must've gotten OK sort of those are seven
you were right three hundred six zero

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zero zero zero two thousand still there
were down there and down yeah there wasn't

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any I don't like on my. Back right.

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It should never survive for how I'm going
back to being OK well take home pay the

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limitation and so back in the seventy's
during the well the ministration so I was

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in the seventies when needed so. You can
see the. Central. Coast Center and he put

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it he put it in

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a law called non-criminal disposition law
which allowed cities and towns if they

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got authorization from town through dialogue
that you could write civil tickets so

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you know they look like

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a meter maid ticket and the benefit to
that was that if you caught somebody who

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went to the clerk magistrate here civil
court to either go after them or that's

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what they would contest take it rather
go to criminal. So we we pushed hard

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on the. Back or using our colonel
disposition because we didn't want

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a that you know the clerk have

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a criminal record over this because here
you know this is the early days tobacco be

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you people would loose the fine print in
court it gets handed over the state and

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it's gone. So oh most
of our measures are are

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done through not from suspicion however
one problem is that. The state of US

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caps at three hundred. So if you go over
three hundred it's not possible you can

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just I don't know maybe you already
do this board in the Senate in

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a straight of orders you know just

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a letter on your head saying we caution
this compliance Jackson's check for

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a thousand bucks but if they can test the
code. So be sure the numbers it is for

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will state where because of say Boston
goes beyond Go ahead it's like there are

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quite a few. One stands out and we
were just with like I was just with

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a template of people can test things the
timing was the right but I had been able

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more more don't contest that much because
and I think it was Newton I think you

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know always gets out. Of ministry I've
noticed that yeah you know never that's not

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just his fault it wasn't didn't
they would just send them

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a love letter and I was used to letters.
As you see the ticket so as I said to the

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north as you know the ministry was looking
for the page of the business and the

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letter of the law Yeah all the way from
and so every board of health issues that

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they have whether it's you know we're

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a dumpster thing or white or
whatever it is they send out

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a letter you know you should find and the
judge comes back so in reality I don't

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want to scare you off by the bulk of the
court thing but in reality we have so few

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. People contesting it because it's now
part and parcel of their of retailers world

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they expected. That it may happen now and
then but maybe your town council will be

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perfectly frank I think they really break
do whatever you want real you know I just

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think it's the better best way to go to get
them to start if you're well taken it's

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accurate the kids are getting so easily
I'll take the better route is this is

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Herman suspension. What do you think
it's almost a day when they had

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a smoking selling for minors to age well
the only one asking where it's what and

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how I do you know they did yeah Compliance
Check but you've accepted your own

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internal compliance checks in severe
difficult given right in through the state

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and. Done on your own dollar on you when
you mean Compliance Check is having

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someone going to grant it goes into the
store under adult supervision and try to

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purchase it and that would go through our
police department not only trained some

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of them Sharon came to the training
so Sharon can go out and be the adult

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supervisor doing the compliance Jack and
we have used all cross the state and been

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trained so what Sharon is ready
I can connect. With Is there

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a cost to the risk they're going to give
up and do you expect to be paid and

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they're generally paid eight to ten dollars
an hour so it's fine to start about it

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dollars an hour remind you how many thirty
thirty stories you just heard you know

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where they're serving thirty.
Stories you can get that. Could

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probably get that done
and. Three or four hours.

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Was in the news not just you know
need money to purchase the product.

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But with fifty cents. Here you know this
if you haven't had a Compliance Check in

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a lot of years. Of use could
go into your the resource and

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come out with fifty percent of the time
and fifteen percent more more of the time

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to purchase stuff this isn't going to cost
much is my cost forty nine to sixty nine

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cents but

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a pack of cigarettes is going to cost nine
dollars so you need to be prepared you

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know this is you know the there's no gram
money from that point out from the so

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there are now but OK I will say I just
as interesting as I do with compliance

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checks so the federal government expects
every state in all fifty states to do

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a sampling of the plans check statewide
so we're lucky enough to have

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a pretty extensive direct program so almost
all of our plans checks go for either

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new ports or whole roads because that's
where kids but they're also the most

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expensive so books and books
that. If you were to tomorrow do

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appliance check for the first time in
years it wouldn't be surprising if you

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actually cut half. If you want to save
substantial money but you want to jack that

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up to three or sketching or have

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a kid like it. Because they're actually
especially if they're chains there they

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train the chains to think the kid comes in
from long rows be more careful that the

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kid comes in for these half the virtual you
know these are so that itself so if we

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want you know in

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a way we want to set an example to go into
place check out something like this or

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black

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a single black. With cash paid nine percent
yeah you know when I was doing the finals

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checks and I had switched over
cigarettes to Usually these and.

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Particularly get

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a sixteen seventeen year old girl going
in and asking for help each game.

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And some of the girls but she were to do
the blank check that I. Didn't And I just

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I was. Just always struck me as very
strange that they were selling studies to

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her yeah you know now we also know from the
outside just inside that if you are. A

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teenage boy clerk will sell to
selling anybody anybody. Going

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to do you think been well trained so it's
not like there are you know young ladies

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going to go into the store and and chatting
up or anything that doesn't happen they

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go when they ask for whatever drugs
straight for They've been told by the adult

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supervisor purchase and that's it you know
that you know it's she didn't work out

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whether she's going to walk out without
it because she was asked for her I.D.

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. You know time to think most like most of
the small stores around here and because

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what you don't go into any of those stores
now although you don't go away and well

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not all Sharon went to three to the training
but. When they're ready for that the

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first things you have

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a silly reason for yeah yeah February early
February and they're going to declare

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everything seems Doris is fun for in that
yeah I was like many layers and. Yeah so

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that is it and what we do know is that.
When retailers know that somebody is out

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there and we also are reminding them
of the F.T.'s out there the F.D.A.

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Does not tell us or you when they're in
town they just going to do that. They just

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need to be on their toes and that's when
they know that the you know it's watching

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that thing you know to be able to lose.
Over time they shouldn't be so nice.

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And then oh no there are
communities that have

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a very low you sales rate but it's because
they're diligent they're out you know

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they're doing lines checks they're out in
the stores like you know the person in

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Sharon's position would
actually be in the stores

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a number of times throughout the year
reminding them. You know we're all doing

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clients jets the F.D.A.

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Is also doing on

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a chance to get checked all the time and
you really need to be diligent about not

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selling tobacco products to kids so
you know it's. The industry has such

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a presence in the retail stores because
they get the money to do the advertising

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they've got you know their product in there
which is advertising in itself to get

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those cigarette reps in the stores all
the time we don't have that you know we

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don't have that president President
so we encourage people to go out for

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a little bit the other part of the
training that Sharon did was on retail

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inspections so that she can incorporate
into battle retail inspection in with her

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food service inspection
doing there and there is

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a separate list menus in Florida
related or I notice in it is here is

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a room the last of you believe the signage
I can see over is checked for years

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right and he and

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a few training. Service telling us that
it is for instance stop and shop if you

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have

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a cashier and your House races never accept
Gretzky cash or go to their customer

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service desk it's the cigarettes for that
asked if they're being outstation they

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still have to have

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a sign at their cash register so I'm
handing out seventeen. Separate

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signs free to pass through a few instructions
plus they have their sign it has

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a service desk was missing and that's when
I say we're right on this to begin with

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that's right order this is signed today.
They're publicly or how very very often

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here and I think I've actually gone through
the one I have ordered seventeen Nov

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twenty five and learning up throughout the
night we're going to have history and

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English and I should say right now so much
talk show but like being in stores. In

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between the time with the
Philip Morris read the R.J.

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Reynolds the cigar rep they all come in
they're all like can you move that away and

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put mine here and screw that sign the
night checking you know so there's always

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this this whack a mole that are doing
with the industry over this is

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a sign you can just hand it out like that
on the display they're going to come in

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they're going to yank that sign down and
it's no skin off their back because

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they're not the permit holder so technically
they can't that you know the Philip

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Morris rep can't be fine he's just taking

423
00:34:24,45 --> 00:34:29,50
a side right off of his property so we can
start you know part of the training is

424
00:34:29,65 --> 00:34:34,16
me reviving books like Sharon you know what
I'm getting from the sign might in part

425
00:34:34,17 --> 00:34:37,31
to put it up to back to
industry property put it up on

426
00:34:37,32 --> 00:34:42,27
a wall somewhere only just customer service
area to visit with me and I write down

427
00:34:42,49 --> 00:34:47,64
and sign interest do not sell
it to under eighteen it's

428
00:34:47,65 --> 00:34:54,24
a state law and it is if you sign our
BLACK Yeah. And I gather from that

429
00:34:54,25 --> 00:34:55,52
where there's

430
00:34:55,53 --> 00:35:01,05
a live look at this playing some of the
comic. Opera you really have it both of you

431
00:35:01,06 --> 00:35:05,62
know yeah it's called the self-service
display here and they can't have it on the

432
00:35:05,63 --> 00:35:10,82
converse of I could if I can touch it
without having that ask for it that it's

433
00:35:10,83 --> 00:35:15,39
a self-service display and you know share
it was trading it and depending on the

434
00:35:15,40 --> 00:35:19,84
size of this it just like I hope you know
are you getting give them thirty seconds

435
00:35:19,85 --> 00:35:24,32
to move it. And then right then take it
if they don't where you get it if it's

436
00:35:24,33 --> 00:35:28,28
something big are you going to negotiate
OK How long does it take you to go down

437
00:35:28,29 --> 00:35:29,20
days hard work

438
00:35:29,21 --> 00:35:33,98
a lock to put on that human door. Well it
doesn't take three weeks I'll be back in

439
00:35:33,99 --> 00:35:39,31
forty eight hours or
whatever. They're. OK.

440
00:35:40,94 --> 00:35:46,42
So. OK So you know there was one I'm going
to I want to back up real quick there

441
00:35:46,43 --> 00:35:50,73
was just one point I wanted to make on the
minimum pricing that been talked about

442
00:35:51,11 --> 00:35:51,33
on

443
00:35:51,34 --> 00:35:56,87
a number for that minimum pricing on refers
to cigarettes or these things there's no

444
00:35:56,88 --> 00:36:03,26
state minimum price and them so if
you adopt that provision in your

445
00:36:03,27 --> 00:36:05,77
regulation here is to Tooting

446
00:36:05,85 --> 00:36:11,11
a community minimum price exactly what you
know its members doesn't write inscribed

447
00:36:11,12 --> 00:36:17,18
minimum cigar size price right but there's
no state minimum for these things like

448
00:36:17,19 --> 00:36:22,11
there is there is for cigarettes so you
see they get up to scramble for it that

449
00:36:22,12 --> 00:36:25,84
would include minimum price of the
zygote as well there's already merely

450
00:36:25,85 --> 00:36:29,23
a crazy go see only I need
to make that clarification

451
00:36:29,24 --> 00:36:35,36
a little bit so the section
says. It's page six or ten.

452
00:36:36,95 --> 00:36:40,74
So the issue is about on the shelf and just
not Africans I'm going compliance with

453
00:36:40,81 --> 00:36:44,42
current nasty you are requirements
set of policies including But all of

454
00:36:44,43 --> 00:36:49,16
a minimum retail price of tobacco
products so right now there's only

455
00:36:49,17 --> 00:36:53,26
a minimum retail price for cigarettes OK
right and they actually expanded that

456
00:36:53,34 --> 00:36:57,52
tobacco products because maybe somebody
the miracle of way happened that to your

457
00:36:57,82 --> 00:36:58,29
students

458
00:36:58,30 --> 00:37:03,82
a miracle pricing list for the stuff so
right now we have to get this later that

459
00:37:03,83 --> 00:37:08,73
correct OK but it would have some changes
and yet if you are right there maybe

460
00:37:09,19 --> 00:37:16,06
we're really is we have
dreams. OK so. Number five

461
00:37:16,07 --> 00:37:20,81
is pretty standard I put it in because I
thought it was unique but what cities and

462
00:37:20,82 --> 00:37:25,70
towns do this that you don't you know permit
standing fines exist we do that very.

463
00:37:27,17 --> 00:37:31,66
Practically and we haven't had the up to
the right because you're right but. Even

464
00:37:31,67 --> 00:37:36,36
like friends outside times have you checked
that like the whole town Oh yes but if

465
00:37:36,37 --> 00:37:36,95
you don't issue

466
00:37:36,96 --> 00:37:43,36
a renewal if the store doesn't you know it
is going to be her designing and so YES

467
00:37:43,42 --> 00:37:45,12
YES YES Did you know they were in

468
00:37:45,13 --> 00:37:49,11
a little yes and yes so that's pretty
standard in the Los Angeles slice of them.

469
00:37:50,62 --> 00:37:55,20
Number six is this cap that I think was
discussed at the previous one so we the

470
00:37:55,21 --> 00:37:59,43
mystery gave you the cap language today so
we have about five six cities and towns

471
00:37:59,44 --> 00:38:05,04
that have decided to cap their permits
the theory behind this is to is the same

472
00:38:05,05 --> 00:38:09,63
kind of similar theory behind capping
liquor licenses and that is to have

473
00:38:09,67 --> 00:38:16,53
a set number of retailers who if they know
that they're the privileged class they

474
00:38:16,54 --> 00:38:20,74
going to care more about their permit
and if they lose it and there's

475
00:38:20,75 --> 00:38:26,00
a waiting list they'll have to get on that
waiting list it's good for us it's makes

476
00:38:26,01 --> 00:38:30,39
for fewer places that need to be have
complaints takes fewer places for kids to get

477
00:38:30,40 --> 00:38:36,51
thing is on cigarettes and it kind of
corrects. Something that we've never that

478
00:38:36,52 --> 00:38:40,55
we've not done tobacco which is that
we've basically walk him fill out the

479
00:38:40,56 --> 00:38:41,24
application write

480
00:38:41,25 --> 00:38:46,12
a check and you get it we don't have any
quality control so this is saying that you

481
00:38:46,13 --> 00:38:50,08
know our town probably is about where we
need to be it's very unusual to hear that

482
00:38:50,09 --> 00:38:55,51
you have three new vendors because in fact
everybody's going down by referencing

483
00:38:55,52 --> 00:39:00,98
Boston just because I know that's usually
has every nightmarish. Contortion

484
00:39:00,99 --> 00:39:05,84
happening but Boston has right now eight
hundred sixty nine vendors when we start

485
00:39:05,85 --> 00:39:11,42
the program there are over twelve hundred
so just through. A few places sell

486
00:39:11,43 --> 00:39:16,31
tobacco some have given up voluntarily
vending machines have gone away so they're

487
00:39:16,32 --> 00:39:19,93
not in restaurants and we just see this
so you're you're you know unusual that

488
00:39:19,94 --> 00:39:20,42
you've gone up

489
00:39:20,43 --> 00:39:27,10
a little but here the retail stores are
all they all want all right here and

490
00:39:27,76 --> 00:39:32,03
so while they typically what these towns
have done is they've said OK. We're going

491
00:39:32,04 --> 00:39:36,55
to have we're going to starting
slow this is working it is goes for

492
00:39:36,56 --> 00:39:41,80
a slow gradual cap so you'll see in the
wording that if I'm going to renew my

493
00:39:41,81 --> 00:39:47,38
permit it's not the cap doesn't matter I
can renew my permit we do put thirty days

494
00:39:47,39 --> 00:39:49,34
in it that way they have
to move their butts

495
00:39:49,35 --> 00:39:54,70
a little faster to not be chasing them
six months down the road. And if I sell

496
00:39:54,71 --> 00:40:00,00
Sarah Sarah has sixty days to capture my
permit so we're not putting my say on that

497
00:40:00,01 --> 00:40:02,53
disadvantage for that so this is

498
00:40:02,54 --> 00:40:07,91
a slow gradual way of going but it does
say you know you probably have fewer than

499
00:40:08,01 --> 00:40:14,75
thirty liquor stores I'm sure. About is the
way saying we're saturated enough that

500
00:40:14,76 --> 00:40:16,70
we can do this and then if

501
00:40:16,71 --> 00:40:23,43
a waiting list does start up. And.
Tomorrow I know that you have

502
00:40:23,44 --> 00:40:25,89
a target you target or has

503
00:40:25,90 --> 00:40:30,43
a nationwide policy that will sell tobacco
but if they were to reverse that target

504
00:40:30,44 --> 00:40:31,74
could say Charron have

505
00:40:31,75 --> 00:40:35,47
a list of your things are so good and he'll
go to the one that's the smallest and

506
00:40:35,48 --> 00:40:41,30
say I'll give you twenty thousand to turn.
It up we don't care about that we love

507
00:40:41,31 --> 00:40:45,34
that kind of brokering happen that happens
with liquor stores looking licenses all

508
00:40:45,35 --> 00:40:51,01
time but it's just it's just trying to
to cap the density so we just can stop

509
00:40:51,02 --> 00:40:55,79
having this classic intersection in suburbs
where all four corners are filled by

510
00:40:55,80 --> 00:41:00,36
gas stations set off or sell tobacco they're
all competing you know with prices and

511
00:41:00,37 --> 00:41:04,96
bigger signs and see get the back of
problems down three sensible of the next one

512
00:41:05,45 --> 00:41:11,77
and just say we're good Isn't
this enough sales to satisfy our

513
00:41:11,90 --> 00:41:18,70
diminishing percentage of smokers we have
in town. So far so good for those towns

514
00:41:19,28 --> 00:41:20,49
and one town where him has

515
00:41:20,50 --> 00:41:25,41
a reduction in that for five five years
down the road but I think it's as easy just

516
00:41:25,42 --> 00:41:25,81
to say

517
00:41:25,95 --> 00:41:32,00
a little piece of that in five years if you
want to see that. Accurate. The way the

518
00:41:32,01 --> 00:41:35,70
calculation typically is. Take

519
00:41:35,71 --> 00:41:42,49
a current number if you pass the.
Pharmacy no direct sales pharmacy

520
00:41:42,50 --> 00:41:47,84
part that will get to some tracking number
pharmacies and then add one or two just

521
00:41:48,17 --> 00:41:53,05
in case there's something in the pipeline
that you don't know and. It's not highly

522
00:41:53,06 --> 00:41:59,55
scientific but it's just going to
have. No favorite three to four but

523
00:41:59,77 --> 00:42:05,43
Target doesn't sell and maybe actually
being this drug. Well they're just talking

524
00:42:05,44 --> 00:42:05,62
about

525
00:42:05,63 --> 00:42:13,65
a problem. Here so he gets rid save
three. And two out of the three are

526
00:42:13,69 --> 00:42:20,36
changes that have already been
affected. Someone's back rugs been

527
00:42:20,37 --> 00:42:26,98
pharmacies in front of him that it wouldn't
work here so we'll get there that the

528
00:42:26,99 --> 00:42:31,98
number seven is the cigar pricing that we
just talked about is being left ramps and

529
00:42:31,99 --> 00:42:37,69
you'll see the list of cities towns have
been. A number of them are large possibly

530
00:42:37,89 --> 00:42:41,48
first class and actually got sued on
banning black ramps for one of the highest

531
00:42:41,52 --> 00:42:43,98
court in the US just yesterday. So

532
00:42:43,99 --> 00:42:48,37
a lot of rap and Danimal
opened it up for you and it is

533
00:42:48,38 --> 00:42:54,47
a flavor sheet of reconstituted tobacco
so the sheet rolled up so you can make

534
00:42:54,48 --> 00:42:58,40
a drawing to out of it and so this one
that's what they're doing this holds and we

535
00:42:58,41 --> 00:43:03,24
all know it as we all know zigzag but
exiting is not the big seller in this field

536
00:43:04,10 --> 00:43:10,03
they're all highly flavored it's usually
crap tobacco but. This is really nice and

537
00:43:10,20 --> 00:43:13,92
yes from Mexico most of them from Mexico
would probably sleep the floor to make

538
00:43:13,93 --> 00:43:16,53
this thing. Sell for fifty cents to

539
00:43:16,54 --> 00:43:20,91
a buck and kids used to roll joints are
concerned is that near tobacco we don't

540
00:43:20,92 --> 00:43:24,80
want them to drink concern is there's one
trying to say well you know we don't want

541
00:43:24,81 --> 00:43:29,13
to ask that's about we don't want to get
to get over their drugs they're part phase

542
00:43:29,14 --> 00:43:34,52
and they then be addicted to for tobacco
for no. Thirty years. Too small South

543
00:43:34,53 --> 00:43:40,13
Boston has been these awesome band that
been back three years and like I said we

544
00:43:40,14 --> 00:43:44,65
have the big cities that actually do the
spots and you get fertile and. I have

545
00:43:44,81 --> 00:43:46,30
never been to this well it's been not

546
00:43:46,31 --> 00:43:50,36
a problem and this is the one area that
you're usually your police chief likes to

547
00:43:50,37 --> 00:43:55,34
see concert because of its drug problem
and I wonder who's been on the market one

548
00:43:55,35 --> 00:44:02,13
perhaps try this morning
last. Boss wanted to see.

549
00:44:04,27 --> 00:44:08,79
This because you know I've been on nine
this is probably more than five years out

550
00:44:08,80 --> 00:44:15,49
and says Here now with those falling
Disney restrictions as well being there's

551
00:44:15,92 --> 00:44:18,30
no live free enough this is

552
00:44:18,31 --> 00:44:25,01
a sneak into new season towns are
being. Banning rolling papers by

553
00:44:25,02 --> 00:44:31,08
state law is the one place where you have
a long way in. The world and there is

554
00:44:31,09 --> 00:44:32,42
a horse in the center there is

555
00:44:32,43 --> 00:44:37,44
a girl really very moving and better lobby
as we can find something we can find the

556
00:44:37,45 --> 00:44:42,61
legislative history as to why they ever.
Work in cities and towns like understand

557
00:44:42,65 --> 00:44:47,38
if you know people do this in the older
people that might you know that's the way

558
00:44:47,39 --> 00:44:53,56
they've always done it I can see those
type of people I don't I think the way the

559
00:44:53,57 --> 00:44:58,15
state I want to read zippy it's if you have
been in place before two thousand Think

560
00:44:58,16 --> 00:45:03,49
you can keep it but anything after that
you can only limit. Rolling papers to it

561
00:45:03,50 --> 00:45:05,74
which also but the point is that that is

562
00:45:05,75 --> 00:45:12,44
a nicotine delivery from. This executive
real tobacco industry. So that's

563
00:45:12,45 --> 00:45:17,35
that that's number eight number nine now
that we talk about and then move that we

564
00:45:17,36 --> 00:45:23,14
get when do we as its image the second
discussion. The price for not just

565
00:45:23,98 --> 00:45:28,29
a minimum he said well I'm just conflict
actually I'm sorry I'm confused because

566
00:45:28,30 --> 00:45:31,99
sorry I thought that you
were saying there. As

567
00:45:32,00 --> 00:45:38,94
a board we could institute this pricing
Yes but then you're saying that. Hasn't

568
00:45:38,95 --> 00:45:41,69
really gone into effect
any plans now no it has

569
00:45:41,70 --> 00:45:43,43
a process went into effect and then we had

570
00:45:43,44 --> 00:45:47,72
a handful of channels read about this to
the media and say we want to do it too so

571
00:45:47,73 --> 00:45:53,36
we let those all happen but we asked that
they all waited for the fact to date for

572
00:45:53,37 --> 00:45:57,44
the year anniversary of us and to see
how it played out in Boston we did

573
00:45:57,45 --> 00:45:59,40
a cigar tool kit we have

574
00:45:59,41 --> 00:46:04,77
a sample letter to go to retailers and see
if there's any lawsuits in the house. So

575
00:46:04,78 --> 00:46:09,23
you'll see on that sheet that lists what
happened statewide to see blossom into

576
00:46:09,24 --> 00:46:16,02
effect and twenty in February twelfth but
then we did. But when it's not something

577
00:46:16,96 --> 00:46:20,66
months later but we hook in
but you'll see that we had

578
00:46:20,67 --> 00:46:24,95
a bunch going forward in February and then
we have about four more going and able

579
00:46:24,96 --> 00:46:30,85
one so it was just to sit back to how it
played out but it's going well but yes we

580
00:46:30,86 --> 00:46:36,26
did learn retailers get confused
by this so the letter does explain

581
00:46:36,27 --> 00:46:41,72
a pretty as clearly as we think we can do
so even if you've decided to do that new

582
00:46:41,73 --> 00:46:46,66
regulations to get this toolkit that you
just spoke out of that Sharon would have

583
00:46:46,67 --> 00:46:52,35
access to that has information that would
go out to the retailers in this one the

584
00:46:52,36 --> 00:46:56,16
whole thing to them how to implement
it and everything so that everybody

585
00:46:56,17 --> 00:46:59,09
understands what they need to
do the letter goes through

586
00:46:59,10 --> 00:47:03,61
a bunch of this in the frequently asked
question that goes with it so so but it's

587
00:47:03,62 --> 00:47:07,52
getting better but we're that's that's
what I meant by we kind of just let it sit

588
00:47:07,53 --> 00:47:11,01
for a year just to see our play
with that that kind of rang

589
00:47:11,02 --> 00:47:15,59
a little bell. To see if there were any
in the last and this is meeting we adopt

590
00:47:15,60 --> 00:47:17,56
this we can do those and
I still think to be

591
00:47:17,57 --> 00:47:22,52
a doctor you can expose anything have we
have no trouble with that we think at this

592
00:47:22,53 --> 00:47:28,12
point it would seem that we think at this
point A that we lens from here go past.

593
00:47:29,17 --> 00:47:35,45
And be that we're having season towns. And
to up exactly the language of Boston. So

594
00:47:35,65 --> 00:47:42,64
he could argue so he's Boston would be
with help with the loss of there but

595
00:47:42,65 --> 00:47:47,04
so far so good but this is
probably the hottest topic for

596
00:47:47,05 --> 00:47:48,80
a lawsuit and that's why
we have the full year.

597
00:47:53,75 --> 00:47:58,84
Being We dems of coupons. A lot of our older
rigs have something about coupons but

598
00:47:58,85 --> 00:48:04,28
we're basically saying is that you can't
meet. Companies think about all the hoopla

599
00:48:04,29 --> 00:48:11,07
to one particular medium coupon that drives
the price of cigarettes below price. So

600
00:48:11,19 --> 00:48:13,02
cigarettes are nine dollars if you get

601
00:48:13,03 --> 00:48:17,26
a dollar couponing and the price is eight
fifty you can only get fifty cents on

602
00:48:17,27 --> 00:48:18,87
that but they came with just

603
00:48:18,88 --> 00:48:23,58
a day with this language you're saying.
Actually you could do that technically yes

604
00:48:23,59 --> 00:48:29,37
they could but what we find actually
is that if you the next time you see

605
00:48:29,38 --> 00:48:34,71
a cigarette canister you know it's not
right this is what you think and what.

606
00:48:35,78 --> 00:48:41,62
Somebody something is or ever how some
people survive so I would hate even though

607
00:48:41,63 --> 00:48:46,14
it's for something that's killing them
some of the some of these things are going

608
00:48:46,15 --> 00:48:50,19
towards adult sales to adult consumption
but you'll also notice with

609
00:48:50,20 --> 00:48:51,94
a coupon specifically the next A.B.C.

610
00:48:51,95 --> 00:48:52,92
And the news in

611
00:48:52,93 --> 00:48:59,17
a magazine it's using program for American
spirit anyway so whatever they do in the

612
00:48:59,18 --> 00:49:04,22
bottle say void in Massachusetts
success of so that that that

613
00:49:04,50 --> 00:49:08,32
a lot of companies know about to give out
stuff and yes you discuss their freight

614
00:49:08,33 --> 00:49:13,55
of getting their retailers across the
coupon thing came up because Mansfield I

615
00:49:14,19 --> 00:49:17,88
think is going to create words now I
think you know their new hardware is

616
00:49:17,89 --> 00:49:23,79
ridiculous whatever. We got wind up ahead
of the fact that there is going to be

617
00:49:23,80 --> 00:49:27,79
a big country music of that there I think
and they were going to be giving out

618
00:49:27,97 --> 00:49:33,63
coupons and they approached the Board of
Health head of time saying no problem with

619
00:49:33,64 --> 00:49:37,99
this rights of the Board of Health would
regulations pretty quickly to the

620
00:49:38,00 --> 00:49:42,93
reduction of the coupons so if there if
they're giving out the coupons at the pump

621
00:49:42,94 --> 00:49:48,40
that summer millions feel they can't come
here to Abington to redeem those coupons

622
00:49:48,98 --> 00:49:50,46
and we put in so this is just

623
00:49:50,47 --> 00:49:56,94
a reduction of some of the phrase that
would drive the prices down. Retailers to

624
00:49:57,59 --> 00:50:04,46
find themselves in. Big self-service
Clayson vending machines ten eleven

625
00:50:04,53 --> 00:50:10,45
was these towns or do that I'm not sure
what to. Think you didn't get an issue to

626
00:50:10,46 --> 00:50:17,19
go. With that. And we don't
have any self-service

627
00:50:18,03 --> 00:50:20,24
every place now and then
the cigarettes if you get

628
00:50:20,25 --> 00:50:25,35
a good counter well better when this is
what it's all service to small it means is

629
00:50:25,36 --> 00:50:29,81
that you don't own a little
cardboard box on the counter with

630
00:50:29,82 --> 00:50:34,81
a hole filled with these things in there
you can touch it without having that ask

631
00:50:34,82 --> 00:50:36,11
for it that's

632
00:50:36,12 --> 00:50:40,66
a subset of this display so all tobacco
products are supposed to be over the corpse

633
00:50:40,67 --> 00:50:47,50
head behind the clerks back
in something plastic that you

634
00:50:47,51 --> 00:50:53,46
know that there are the back side of the
road that but believe it opens I mean if

635
00:50:53,47 --> 00:50:55,91
it turns I'm still going to consider that

636
00:50:55,92 --> 00:51:00,14
a self-service display because if it
turns and you can open the door as

637
00:51:00,15 --> 00:51:02,00
a customer then you've got it's

638
00:51:02,01 --> 00:51:06,80
a need that needs to be locked and humidor
needs to be locked so can I just say Oh

639
00:51:06,81 --> 00:51:12,77
so the last time you were here you the
young lady that was with Jackie Jackie had

640
00:51:12,78 --> 00:51:18,37
found prior to coming to this meeting the
self-service place here OK it's what she

641
00:51:18,38 --> 00:51:21,60
told. And I should say I don't have

642
00:51:21,61 --> 00:51:27,09
a number I can look up the number but
you probably have under fifty two other

643
00:51:27,10 --> 00:51:31,69
cities and towns that ban cell service to
place the vending machine thing you know

644
00:51:31,70 --> 00:51:32,06
if you have

645
00:51:32,07 --> 00:51:39,11
a thing where you know you want to
go in front of. Their dear girl or

646
00:51:39,12 --> 00:51:44,60
a phone where they can now say self-expression
are recited one of the face and say

647
00:51:44,61 --> 00:51:49,47
can it be on an iconic piece again because
I thought I could take the cell service

648
00:51:49,48 --> 00:51:50,94
or when he began to put

649
00:51:50,95 --> 00:51:56,14
a mouse regulations there are certain
instances where you can have with.

650
00:51:56,17 --> 00:52:01,35
Self-service display never be in and then
you don't someone is establishment but if

651
00:52:01,36 --> 00:52:04,08
you have abandoned selves they regard like

652
00:52:04,09 --> 00:52:08,82
a bar or more important smoke shop the
smaller shop to back up shop but if you have

653
00:52:08,83 --> 00:52:15,36
a bandsaw service displays then to agree
to service is one brand inspection to

654
00:52:15,84 --> 00:52:20,58
bring your gifts for the
borrowed from. Well OK this is

655
00:52:20,59 --> 00:52:25,51
a man isn't allowed in the Razor way but
you'll see in the that section that deals

656
00:52:25,52 --> 00:52:32,15
with private as such are splays the. The
compromise language is the attorney

657
00:52:32,16 --> 00:52:33,82
general regulation which does

658
00:52:33,83 --> 00:52:37,68
a lot of people if they're called on me the
whole time so if you want to keep that

659
00:52:37,75 --> 00:52:41,41
let's bring the vending machine when I
should say the feds have cut that have

660
00:52:41,42 --> 00:52:45,92
chopped up the requirements beyond the
attorney generals to the point that he

661
00:52:45,93 --> 00:52:51,36
should have every right which is you need
you can only have any machine place read

662
00:52:51,37 --> 00:52:57,75
between the location that bans adults bans
kids all the time so we're finding them

663
00:52:57,76 --> 00:53:02,56
now and then like the Elks bought one
hundred years ago but if the else ever has

664
00:53:02,57 --> 00:53:04,50
a birthday party they can never have

665
00:53:04,51 --> 00:53:08,41
a better machine so the vending machines
really get booted out by the feds and the

666
00:53:08,50 --> 00:53:13,61
state but the subs are splayed if you want
friends still have that we can craft of

667
00:53:13,62 --> 00:53:20,54
that. And you'll see in the IT
SAYS. Something like the last

668
00:53:20,58 --> 00:53:25,46
good the federal thing I saw in the in top
on his devilish ones which were in the

669
00:53:25,47 --> 00:53:32,04
background and this is it. You are
not supposed to be allowed in to

670
00:53:32,05 --> 00:53:38,65
a tobacco store so if you use goes in
the door. Any other word we use they

671
00:53:38,69 --> 00:53:45,12
pounced they need to be pounced on right
away and ask for ID right away at the door

672
00:53:45,13 --> 00:53:47,13
they shouldn't even be able to get up to

673
00:53:47,14 --> 00:53:51,96
a counter that's how quick it supposed
to be and if it's yes yes he is doing

674
00:53:51,97 --> 00:53:57,51
Compliance Check here in Massachusetts and
they go into friends. Similar to back of

675
00:53:57,52 --> 00:54:03,71
the store and the news going in is not
pounced on here written up and fine to where

676
00:54:03,72 --> 00:54:07,99
the F.D.A. Does in that situation if a
kid walked by a cigarette sipped it with

677
00:54:08,56 --> 00:54:12,52
a number of fine violation and when they
go through the door violation to the check

678
00:54:12,53 --> 00:54:16,88
ID violation of the three they saw This Is
So this I think you can see I've got to

679
00:54:16,89 --> 00:54:22,27
find it all the time I'm right there and
more visits and triggers more visits

680
00:54:22,31 --> 00:54:25,52
picture so so but so I was

681
00:54:25,53 --> 00:54:28,71
a go to the vending machine band it's just
not really no way around it but if you

682
00:54:28,72 --> 00:54:31,99
want to do the cell service display
you'll see at the end of this F.D.A.

683
00:54:32,00 --> 00:54:38,89
Slash limits that's the language of yours.
Number twelve really your own machines

684
00:54:39,50 --> 00:54:44,38
as one of them are white Grow Your Own
So what happened about two years ago we

685
00:54:44,39 --> 00:54:50,20
started seeing popping up first in smoke
shops and gas stations and convenience

686
00:54:50,21 --> 00:54:53,09
stores this thirty thousand
dollars sheen that made

687
00:54:53,10 --> 00:54:59,46
a carton of cigarettes in ten minutes for
most of the smoke shop was Army in charge

688
00:54:59,89 --> 00:55:02,60
of seventeen dollars a car
compared to eighty dollars for

689
00:55:02,61 --> 00:55:09,53
a car. So it was welcome we were trying to
figure out how to how to stop them they

690
00:55:09,54 --> 00:55:15,70
did but because what happened is she
would sell me the tubes and the cheap.

691
00:55:16,91 --> 00:55:22,68
Really undertaxed by federal standards
cigar so they are back I'd walk over via

692
00:55:22,69 --> 00:55:27,26
touch screen and I could do this I'd stand
there and then I'd be responsible for

693
00:55:27,27 --> 00:55:31,42
him the tobacco or whatever else I had in
my hand and I'd be responsible the kid as

694
00:55:31,43 --> 00:55:33,46
a customer pulling out the
single cigarettes and put him in

695
00:55:33,47 --> 00:55:35,53
a box so the store it's a machine in

696
00:55:35,54 --> 00:55:41,34
a store that you know when you're going
there also exactly like your doctor has we

697
00:55:41,35 --> 00:55:43,69
were just trying to we're
just wrapping your head

698
00:55:43,70 --> 00:55:48,20
a bit as have we with Attorney General of
the already well we got we're all trying

699
00:55:48,21 --> 00:55:51,62
to figure out how it affects the fire
marshal to we're all trying to figure this

700
00:55:51,63 --> 00:55:54,66
out and Philip Morris slips

701
00:55:54,80 --> 00:55:59,90
a provision into. The federal transportation
bill like that sign July that

702
00:55:59,91 --> 00:56:03,59
basically been some everywhere except for
private clubs so you could you could have

703
00:56:03,60 --> 00:56:07,74
a role your own club where you
know each pay five dollars

704
00:56:07,75 --> 00:56:14,44
a year to go use this machine so even though
the Feds have effectively with Philip

705
00:56:14,45 --> 00:56:20,35
Morris kind tell me happy all this out of
our life we still haven't been here just

706
00:56:20,36 --> 00:56:24,59
in case some someone down the road
or the film our C.E.O.'s have

707
00:56:24,60 --> 00:56:28,93
a thirty thousand dollar machine somewhere
down the road we want to make sure that

708
00:56:28,94 --> 00:56:32,88
our cities and towns don't let these things
come in because we want to keep that

709
00:56:32,89 --> 00:56:37,68
price high this is a sanitation issue God
knows what some people are putting in

710
00:56:37,69 --> 00:56:42,89
a machine. And it doesn't get clean
between users at that point of the day.

711
00:56:45,71 --> 00:56:49,89
So unfortunately we actually start warning
retails not to buy them because we will

712
00:56:49,90 --> 00:56:50,00
have

713
00:56:50,01 --> 00:56:54,47
a retails at the city of thirty thousand
dollars or counter or more they would walk

714
00:56:54,48 --> 00:57:00,79
two or three of the other guy and father
out for now. And for him to use her but

715
00:57:01,21 --> 00:57:02,61
he then becomes

716
00:57:02,65 --> 00:57:07,79
a manufacturer just like the people that
are making this so I have to pay into the

717
00:57:07,80 --> 00:57:12,44
master settlement agreement and follow
all sorts of brochures regulations and

718
00:57:12,45 --> 00:57:17,44
everything like that so there isn't really
yeah Philip Morris basically said the

719
00:57:17,45 --> 00:57:24,39
mall and smoke shop these pay all the
same fees on everything in the bag so we

720
00:57:24,40 --> 00:57:29,03
do it. So that it kills all but that's
why we have it there so that was

721
00:57:29,04 --> 00:57:33,35
a secret So still there's not enough doesn't
the financial something else like this

722
00:57:33,36 --> 00:57:33,99
does not affect

723
00:57:34,00 --> 00:57:37,78
a little tiny machine that you can make
one cigarette time design also a kind of

724
00:57:37,79 --> 00:57:42,66
a microwave sized machine that for three
or buxom heavy smokers might buy for

725
00:57:42,67 --> 00:57:48,68
themselves and to this in effect home use
does say retailer cannot be doing this

726
00:57:49,25 --> 00:57:55,06
step. And then thirteen and fourteen the
same time that Boston being to plant wraps

727
00:57:55,26 --> 00:58:00,61
They'll also be into back. Sales and health
care students primarily pharmacies and

728
00:58:00,96 --> 00:58:06,66
educational institutions primarily college
person and so you'll see this is the the

729
00:58:06,67 --> 00:58:11,89
next two sheets are approved on what state
will be so that the pharmacy one where

730
00:58:11,90 --> 00:58:18,16
up to fifty five actually because it's just
passes to the. Leaf in fact cities and

731
00:58:18,17 --> 00:58:23,83
towns of the six largest cities in the state
have been subject to sales in pharmacy

732
00:58:24,41 --> 00:58:29,28
is also captures and we clinics because
actually there's nothing in the book that

733
00:58:29,29 --> 00:58:29,59
says

734
00:58:29,60 --> 00:58:35,08
a hospital can't sell tobacco in their gift
shop there is no stable so this affects

735
00:58:35,38 --> 00:58:41,25
clinics chiropractors offices plus
the stuff back this way places the

736
00:58:41,33 --> 00:58:48,20
characteristics of. The slow
sure we because most of the sell

737
00:58:48,21 --> 00:58:55,03
short communities are not funded through
the bankruptcy years of so so I

738
00:58:55,04 --> 00:59:01,84
was coming out of Washington tight
clothes proactive. So I can tell you

739
00:59:01,92 --> 00:59:07,99
as a boss now has been in place for
four years we have not. Issued

740
00:59:08,00 --> 00:59:09,08
a ticket there's not

741
00:59:09,27 --> 00:59:14,90
a loss of there's been credible compliance
and you'll see all the major players one

742
00:59:14,91 --> 00:59:19,28
knows in two out of the three so you get
your stuff in shop and Wal-Mart on there

743
00:59:20,08 --> 00:59:24,32
and they're already not selling tobacco
you know one zero is not listed in the

744
00:59:24,75 --> 00:59:29,05
interests of one passage here and having
to they're not in that an eyelash no

745
00:59:29,06 --> 00:59:33,29
waiting for you to do in target to make
they have to disclose their work for stuff

746
00:59:33,30 --> 00:59:37,82
which I so why does your district manager
would not be surprised to see you have

747
00:59:37,83 --> 00:59:42,56
twenty seven state wide that are but stopping
short is in the health care it's too

748
00:59:42,57 --> 00:59:45,02
short we'll let you know when
you're going to run it is just

749
00:59:45,03 --> 00:59:48,76
a nobody no I don't think that the
pharmacies and how cancer solution I work in

750
00:59:48,77 --> 00:59:50,55
health care and that's how
they were going to as

751
00:59:50,56 --> 00:59:54,47
a state that's how they look at Senator
Martinez is there either weren't always

752
00:59:54,48 --> 00:59:59,40
supportive. Have it in them forever Well
let me just ask you I won't I won't

753
00:59:59,41 --> 01:00:03,67
belabor it but when you see that walking
so they same come to us by violence are

754
01:00:03,68 --> 01:00:07,99
they saying come to our trusted pharmacies
pharmacists or the medical here read as

755
01:00:08,00 --> 01:00:08,80
my source is

756
01:00:08,81 --> 01:00:13,82
a living no greeting disagreeably business
he said nice to disagree with somebody

757
01:00:13,83 --> 01:00:20,47
way so it's better to spend an easy sell
for the pharmacies to come appliance most

758
01:00:20,48 --> 01:00:25,56
about in and pharmacies chose not to sell
tobacco when years ago and the remaining

759
01:00:25,57 --> 01:00:28,02
independents that do kind of
do it because they're near

760
01:00:28,06 --> 01:00:32,74
a chain and they don't want the disadvantage
that if they like the good old days

761
01:00:32,75 --> 01:00:35,59
when restaurants all that smoke
free as long as restaurant

762
01:00:35,63 --> 01:00:40,45
a country the same is Restaurant be felt
good about the same thing and easy target

763
01:00:40,46 --> 01:00:44,50
doesn't sell cigarettes in this to us nation
like what you just put it here saying

764
01:00:44,51 --> 01:00:50,98
that this city fourteen targets right
they get included because. Then the

765
01:00:50,99 --> 01:00:56,62
educational institution the way that works
is that Boston said. The first one to do

766
01:00:56,63 --> 01:01:03,04
it and so they said. No to ban
sales in colleges universities not

767
01:01:03,05 --> 01:01:10,05
only their bookstores but also like if
you go down Kami have those seven eleven

768
01:01:10,06 --> 01:01:15,85
for their on the for on the street level
of the Be you going for it's if you're if

769
01:01:15,86 --> 01:01:21,83
your landlord is it your sense to say you
can't sell tobacco. The listener sure

770
01:01:21,84 --> 01:01:22,13
because

771
01:01:22,14 --> 01:01:26,72
a lot of these towns don't have. Cars
universities but we still think it's not

772
01:01:26,73 --> 01:01:28,82
a bad thing to do because
you may someday have

773
01:01:28,83 --> 01:01:33,15
a satellite campus to go you know what
you have having to frankly but you may

774
01:01:33,16 --> 01:01:38,77
someday have good lives nationals
unfortunately but like wisdom is never fully

775
01:01:38,78 --> 01:01:43,70
acknowledge or something all it takes are
not now being done with them but they may

776
01:01:43,71 --> 01:01:48,19
in some you know they just may stay with
you no one saw you in the early or school

777
01:01:48,20 --> 01:01:54,34
of the for all you with real good
dreams. They were called. Routine.

778
01:01:56,41 --> 01:02:02,20
You know that's what was it that was. So
I mean measure something more because I

779
01:02:02,21 --> 01:02:07,55
went there in fifth and sixth
Street I'm twenty one years here.

780
01:02:11,05 --> 01:02:17,78
So that's another part of the last. Ten
years well you're not on the board

781
01:02:17,84 --> 01:02:24,49
David Moore is not as proactive that's
already on the books. They'll fix

782
01:02:24,50 --> 01:02:28,42
a console just like I play
and Alex great was this

783
01:02:28,43 --> 01:02:31,87
a really solid Slugger that you're in
your high now Ameritrade this this goes

784
01:02:31,88 --> 01:02:37,16
beyond He's access to saying you know we
don't want kids who are. Eating You know

785
01:02:37,17 --> 01:02:42,10
twenty four to pick up but they're
not kids they're not kids by

786
01:02:42,11 --> 01:02:47,70
a lot but frequently what happens is if you
manage to get them through high school

787
01:02:47,80 --> 01:02:51,53
not smoking when they go
off to college frequently

788
01:02:51,54 --> 01:02:54,06
a lot of them because that's it
well that's really the serving

789
01:02:54,07 --> 01:02:57,38
a lot of the residents are going
to say what do you do if you have

790
01:02:57,39 --> 01:03:02,15
a cigarette it's a rare offering routine
to get them to get them to quit they have

791
01:03:02,16 --> 01:03:06,90
a tough tougher time getting some of that
is because they're also spending you know

792
01:03:06,91 --> 01:03:11,50
time drinking and smoking at the same
time whatever but so you know what helps

793
01:03:11,51 --> 01:03:16,69
limited to keep that means group in
check a little bit. So that there's

794
01:03:16,70 --> 01:03:23,15
a reason positive effect. Just
so whereas that we use the last

795
01:03:23,58 --> 01:03:28,67
thing which is just. As you sell tobacco
price to younger population with people

796
01:03:28,68 --> 01:03:35,18
you respect smokers it's incompatible
with. Education He doesn't need to think

797
01:03:35,19 --> 01:03:41,31
about it so the next section playing strip
yes of this goes so how did you learn

798
01:03:41,32 --> 01:03:41,77
three hundred

799
01:03:41,78 --> 01:03:45,39
a state law that you have that's the
minimum you can't go onto the set but you

800
01:03:45,53 --> 01:03:51,83
certainly can go beyond that so you right
now have the state. Signing scheme and

801
01:03:52,07 --> 01:03:58,23
you certainly as we spoke of earlier I think
one of the important things is and us

802
01:03:58,35 --> 01:04:05,27
is. To do is suspensions. Because three

803
01:04:05,28 --> 01:04:10,35
hundred dollars is still just
like. The kind of warrants

804
01:04:10,36 --> 01:04:15,20
a senator who has doing things I think we've
done there and you don't need me just

805
01:04:15,21 --> 01:04:21,11
before your time to have any money you have
to be right. You don't get it but it's

806
01:04:21,12 --> 01:04:25,64
the reason why it's checks right there and
United case you get it just so there is

807
01:04:25,65 --> 01:04:31,25
something you're not well we started doing
more than he well it's something that

808
01:04:31,26 --> 01:04:36,85
we're going to have to ask that we certainly
I think that. We all have plenty right

809
01:04:36,86 --> 01:04:40,56
down a line item that we
can't have a train or

810
01:04:40,57 --> 01:04:44,73
a playbook put around and not two of the
things we're going to work on that somehow

811
01:04:44,74 --> 01:04:51,32
or I do say if we Right right you
know I can and I haven't noticed

812
01:04:51,33 --> 01:04:56,76
myself to Tyrone or McCain Oh yeah that's
right so it's very it's pretty standard

813
01:04:56,77 --> 01:05:00,74
that we are standard language that you have
to arrive used to one or two and three

814
01:05:00,75 --> 01:05:03,68
hundred go that also has
a for the second time

815
01:05:03,69 --> 01:05:08,88
a seven day. Suspension and
being kind of third time is

816
01:05:08,89 --> 01:05:13,96
a thirty day suspension and I don't know
him that's the state that I'm sorry

817
01:05:13,97 --> 01:05:15,55
there's already it's not
the states are it's

818
01:05:15,56 --> 01:05:19,28
a recommendation from the state doesn't
see this leaves one hundred two hundred

819
01:05:19,29 --> 01:05:23,69
three we have some we have some towns
that have a six month suspension for

820
01:05:23,70 --> 01:05:26,38
a third time. I don't know if you have

821
01:05:26,39 --> 01:05:32,48
a total of three to our regulations. So we
reckon the tolling periods and actually

822
01:05:32,49 --> 01:05:36,69
it's pro-business to do so think of the
tolling period as kind of like if you get

823
01:05:36,70 --> 01:05:40,63
a speeding ticket and you're on the hook
Transco you're seven here should be good

824
01:05:40,64 --> 01:05:42,14
for seven years and then
you go back to being

825
01:05:42,15 --> 01:05:44,100
a good citizen so what we're
saying is by putting in

826
01:05:45,01 --> 01:05:46,36
a certain amount of months which is

827
01:05:46,37 --> 01:05:50,16
a good and I would say that if you're not
doing that making plans to access them

828
01:05:50,17 --> 01:05:54,03
from the community to go for the thirty
six months and twenty four and saying

829
01:05:54,07 --> 01:05:57,46
because you want to be doing as many say
you need to be good for thirty six months

830
01:05:57,50 --> 01:05:59,52
and then we clean your record so there's

831
01:05:59,53 --> 01:06:03,67
a reason for them to live to an end of
the day without it technically without

832
01:06:03,68 --> 01:06:08,28
totally period you question it out eight
years out may be on the hook for the

833
01:06:08,29 --> 01:06:12,83
second so you're saying. This is something
for you to work to as we caught you once

834
01:06:12,84 --> 01:06:18,27
but if you good and we don't see you in
front of us three years. Everything's going

835
01:06:18,28 --> 01:06:23,92
one percent so that's how I would recommend
thirty six if you're doing them all.

836
01:06:26,37 --> 01:06:32,96
And then lastly for the suspensions. Is
this shall versus may language we have

837
01:06:33,14 --> 01:06:38,68
boards that like the wiggle room of having
We may suspend you we personally like

838
01:06:38,69 --> 01:06:43,46
the shell suspend because that doesn't
surprise me well it's to protect you too

839
01:06:43,60 --> 01:06:46,27
because if you give me that their respects

840
01:06:46,28 --> 01:06:48,21
a different thing from her if you give me

841
01:06:48,22 --> 01:06:52,12
a longer suspension and you give them my
medical math you know where in the year

842
01:06:52,13 --> 01:06:55,12
eighteen I'm doing this so at this point
in time we've helped with health the

843
01:06:55,13 --> 01:06:58,60
summit comes before you for suspension
hearing there's only one question for you to

844
01:06:58,71 --> 01:07:04,52
answer did assail take place here or not
they were having a bad day they had

845
01:07:04,53 --> 01:07:07,91
a headache their mother in law was in the
hospital they they ran to the bathroom

846
01:07:07,92 --> 01:07:12,59
let their twelve year old sell the
cigarettes nothing to this detail take place

847
01:07:12,88 --> 01:07:18,03
boom and then was Shall you just say
sorry the reg says this is what happens

848
01:07:18,66 --> 01:07:18,83
because

849
01:07:18,84 --> 01:07:23,02
a retailer is always going to come to the
Board of Health here in trying to convince

850
01:07:23,03 --> 01:07:24,32
you that it was

851
01:07:24,33 --> 01:07:29,48
a mistake it never happened before it will
never happen again and you have to look

852
01:07:29,49 --> 01:07:31,75
at it is as frequently

853
01:07:31,76 --> 01:07:38,29
a sheriff would be out there with you go
in your particular store. What are the

854
01:07:38,30 --> 01:07:44,78
chances that she just happens to have the
youth go into the store at that time

855
01:07:45,06 --> 01:07:51,64
when you know the Parliament star is
alarming and the sale was made as

856
01:07:51,69 --> 01:07:57,47
infrequently as compliance checks are being
done if that's if that store sells to

857
01:07:57,48 --> 01:08:04,46
a minor there probably will bring
something to mind especially at the bar

858
01:08:04,47 --> 01:08:09,32
pretty night but times that would not
normally doing right then an extension what

859
01:08:09,40 --> 01:08:14,22
she would be out there weekends late at
night whatever it was interesting just an

860
01:08:14,23 --> 01:08:17,97
aside into the script the same process
right now but I ended up going to do this

861
01:08:17,98 --> 01:08:20,07
exact same thing with them
on a night that they just

862
01:08:20,08 --> 01:08:25,75
a plan sex like I love them almost half of
the retailers they're regulation and she

863
01:08:25,76 --> 01:08:30,25
says that you shall come before the board
if you get caught I'll live and came up

864
01:08:30,26 --> 01:08:33,80
there have every I should have written
down these answers they were like or you

865
01:08:33,81 --> 01:08:38,67
excuse the eleven you know and every single
time they said their checks yes there

866
01:08:38,68 --> 01:08:38,83
is

867
01:08:38,84 --> 01:08:43,51
a this day here's your take it hard to take
it that they're fun I was going to say

868
01:08:43,52 --> 01:08:48,48
this three or four years ago or if there
was an hour after hour that went out and

869
01:08:48,68 --> 01:08:55,63
boards of health were invited to be to
sign on to the regional part of the

870
01:08:55,72 --> 01:09:02,07
regional program so the closest regional
programs to here and you know there are

871
01:09:02,08 --> 01:09:03,57
bigger stretches there's

872
01:09:03,58 --> 01:09:10,11
a program in Fall River that comes
nor is fairly far. And there is

873
01:09:10,15 --> 01:09:16,27
a program on the Cape in the islands that
comes east fairly shortly like Kingston

874
01:09:16,51 --> 01:09:23,17
So I think Kingston is probably here close
is funded community and then there's the

875
01:09:23,17 --> 01:09:30,06
. Brookline Wellesley so you were you were
higher than your wedding so your health

876
01:09:30,07 --> 01:09:35,62
director at that point maybe been approached
to see if you wanted to be part of

877
01:09:35,63 --> 01:09:41,83
a regionally funded program. Last man in
the eighth grade was right right this was

878
01:09:41,84 --> 01:09:44,96
yeah this was after that so I
will say is there will come

879
01:09:44,97 --> 01:09:51,72
a time where the all the contracts come up
again and. I will have this that season

880
01:09:51,73 --> 01:09:55,94
tell us who are on from to be invited
to join existing programs and M.H.L.

881
01:09:55,95 --> 01:10:00,35
It doesn't always happen I know it but I
mean you know it will be good bowling OK

882
01:10:00,54 --> 01:10:03,80
that's happened right why would
a town not take it in there is

883
01:10:03,81 --> 01:10:08,94
a current thing but there are some does
it is what it will remain nameless that

884
01:10:09,11 --> 01:10:12,59
don't want to have anything to do with
it you know I'm just wondering though is

885
01:10:12,60 --> 01:10:17,86
really all know the cost benefit is no
wonder it's not cost the town absolutely

886
01:10:17,87 --> 01:10:22,74
nothing no I'll say this to me is the town's
don't join it's just politically there

887
01:10:22,75 --> 01:10:28,04
like tobacco or there is one condition for
cities and towns to do it they have to

888
01:10:28,05 --> 01:10:31,44
have a permit place they don't have to
charge a thing but they have to have

889
01:10:31,45 --> 01:10:35,12
a so we have a handful of towns and
you've got to have a permit and

890
01:10:35,19 --> 01:10:39,92
a permit from have personnel to sell chary
sunscreen you have permits in place and

891
01:10:39,93 --> 01:10:40,39
you charge

892
01:10:40,40 --> 01:10:45,50
a fee there are towns that you just know
what I'm wondering why I wouldn't take

893
01:10:45,51 --> 01:10:51,27
advantage of a state program needed them
with our town do Compliance Check there's

894
01:10:51,28 --> 01:10:57,99
a possibility that. The Grant was submitted
for programs in the air in the South

895
01:10:57,100 --> 01:11:04,44
Shore area that didn't get accepted the
state there were more more regional Grant

896
01:11:04,45 --> 01:11:10,35
submitted than the state had money for
so deal was there worse than regional

897
01:11:10,39 --> 01:11:15,94
approach regional theoretical programs
that were waiting listed and nobody ever

898
01:11:16,05 --> 01:11:19,22
cropped up again and I was

899
01:11:19,23 --> 01:11:24,35
a we were both reviewers and I don't
remember specifically if there was you know

900
01:11:24,36 --> 01:11:31,16
the South Shore area was had submitted
but Quincy used to be the host

901
01:11:31,22 --> 01:11:36,34
weren't all that funded and you
know that got the money from D.P.H.

902
01:11:36,35 --> 01:11:42,21
And provide. It's services to this area
around adding to was included but that's

903
01:11:42,22 --> 01:11:47,19
because you know many years ago no one's
been around long enough Hell even. Now I

904
01:11:47,20 --> 01:11:50,26
was on the Finance Committee before then
and I'm just wondering if there was ever

905
01:11:50,27 --> 01:11:57,19
an article or I think they were so sure
some was. More social ladder so we

906
01:11:57,20 --> 01:12:02,37
can forget of grammar but it was initially
every night of so well this woman and

907
01:12:02,38 --> 01:12:08,76
tobacco control so that money will will
come up again but again it will be when we

908
01:12:08,77 --> 01:12:13,32
really are if we look at things like smoking
problems like that so we're told the

909
01:12:13,33 --> 01:12:18,15
size was high. Thank you for remembering
to bring your tablet in for when you

910
01:12:18,16 --> 01:12:23,12
regret. It you remember I think you had I
think you had something Indigo I didn't

911
01:12:23,13 --> 01:12:26,98
know where I asked the question is
how all the data was that's where

912
01:12:26,99 --> 01:12:28,68
a number right said that it was

913
01:12:28,73 --> 01:12:32,53
a little risk here years years old says but
it was connotation but so I think it's

914
01:12:32,54 --> 01:12:38,73
a five year funding cycle and that was
probably your two or three right now so that

915
01:12:38,74 --> 01:12:42,58
a couple of years to go before that goes
up it's alright for Again you think you

916
01:12:42,62 --> 01:12:43,28
know let me just

917
01:12:43,32 --> 01:12:47,07
a couple just to be really mandated things
you have to do if you can leave this

918
01:12:47,08 --> 01:12:52,63
group yes unfunded mandate things oh I
know there are no his money I'm trying to

919
01:12:52,64 --> 01:12:54,78
figure out why we wouldn't
to give me money this is

920
01:12:54,79 --> 01:12:59,73
a hidden and the so the mandates in
your deliverables would be to conduct

921
01:12:59,77 --> 01:13:05,22
a full round of compliance shots with all
your doctors and the vendor that sells

922
01:13:05,79 --> 01:13:11,90
during Compliance Check would get another
route to Lyons checks one full round of

923
01:13:11,91 --> 01:13:15,76
retail inspections I believe there is also

924
01:13:16,75 --> 01:13:22,12
a survey that gets done with all retailers
so you're in the retail environment as

925
01:13:22,13 --> 01:13:28,96
often as as we can get in there but the
money is the staffing is is there or

926
01:13:28,97 --> 01:13:31,73
I mean if find somebody
else to the digits that's

927
01:13:31,74 --> 01:13:34,93
a creative way for the
roles you know celebrating

928
01:13:34,94 --> 01:13:41,77
a well just three other things. One is
that you right now have been on sale

929
01:13:41,78 --> 01:13:43,74
for use lighters matches in

930
01:13:43,75 --> 01:13:50,46
a row from. The rolling papers.
I don't know to be dated.

931
01:13:51,73 --> 01:13:57,09
Oh no. Oh no you don't believe him when you
know it doesn't get so you can leave it

932
01:13:57,10 --> 01:14:00,51
actually your old paper seems it's no
sale to my house but it's massive to

933
01:14:00,52 --> 01:14:05,28
stabilize that's. So if you were to that
we did we do this regulation I'll make

934
01:14:05,29 --> 01:14:09,65
sure the gets that gets in there your tobacco
your current tobacco price definition

935
01:14:09,69 --> 01:14:16,49
and glutes devices used to smoke in. The
halls and well you know you can be tips

936
01:14:16,97 --> 01:14:21,83
on cigars yet with tips on cigarettes that's.
The good thing but that's interesting

937
01:14:21,87 --> 01:14:26,87
because a history of this has been a
problem that you know I think it's just

938
01:14:26,88 --> 01:14:31,14
a sick joke that if you go between you and
the cigarette I'm going to go OK this is

939
01:14:31,15 --> 01:14:37,06
the unique wording but. Then you're
perfect What's your number one fifty

940
01:14:37,89 --> 01:14:44,74
OK so you're out there that. Are safe
because. The last sublist there were

941
01:14:44,75 --> 01:14:48,33
both market general where. Any girl is

942
01:14:48,34 --> 01:14:55,16
a donor Yeah well. Because they say one
thing that could happen really are.

943
01:14:56,91 --> 01:14:59,86
Two towns in the city of
us that do that they have

944
01:14:59,87 --> 01:15:06,32
a. Revolving fund money goes back to.

945
01:15:07,46 --> 01:15:13,02
The area. Where we used jails.
Used to really get the second guy.

946
01:15:14,93 --> 01:15:21,26
So the permit money in he has kept this
for financing yes. Yes read the permit

947
01:15:21,27 --> 01:15:27,03
money and in print field it was the
permit money and fines went into

948
01:15:27,04 --> 01:15:33,88
a revolving fund. And allowed me to continue
to keep compliance checks you know and

949
01:15:33,89 --> 01:15:38,45
some give you good now once you wouldn't
pass it it's going to. Mr Du Lister also

950
01:15:38,46 --> 01:15:44,45
did not he's going to been to Brimfield
late for the. Fair whatever Brimfield is

951
01:15:44,46 --> 01:15:50,47
a very small rural town they have three
tobacco years that's OK but their permanent

952
01:15:50,48 --> 01:15:56,15
fee even years ago was one hundred dollars
per bender and that gave me enough money

953
01:15:56,16 --> 01:16:01,37
to do three or four compliance is just
really feel so that's the way to look at but

954
01:16:01,38 --> 01:16:01,88
is it's

955
01:16:01,89 --> 01:16:08,76
a process if you don't fancy you know that
some of these process so just but. But

956
01:16:08,77 --> 01:16:15,34
one of them is great but that's here. To
question the character I'm going to. Let

957
01:16:15,35 --> 01:16:21,49
my carry his private clubs
I'm serious. About this

958
01:16:22,10 --> 01:16:28,22
that they will have one of the series no
small thing here in that there will be

959
01:16:28,23 --> 01:16:33,41
a warrior. But if you know
as they open up talks to

960
01:16:33,42 --> 01:16:37,41
a lot of these egos and you know
it's all here and they also have

961
01:16:37,42 --> 01:16:44,28
a lot of these private clubs use behind
him but I thrived and. Another five

962
01:16:44,29 --> 01:16:46,74
years so I know it's hard to so I have

963
01:16:46,75 --> 01:16:52,66
a surprise people who have never loved
never complaining or gas to call them or

964
01:16:52,70 --> 01:16:57,85
complaining as to you know think back to
the Board of Health and complain if they

965
01:16:57,98 --> 01:17:03,89
believe the forces. Printed snark Bangi
it's not fair but they're open to the

966
01:17:03,90 --> 01:17:08,72
public are they going dark to get it back
though so it's just that is what is very

967
01:17:08,73 --> 01:17:15,66
attached family right one with force.
And I just wanted to ask for your

968
01:17:15,76 --> 01:17:18,62
suggestions of that and the other one is

969
01:17:18,63 --> 01:17:25,63
a lot of his reticence to have. Folks small
out front of the restaurant you know

970
01:17:25,64 --> 01:17:30,33
before they go in but other than the
public walk us through the act or in the

971
01:17:30,34 --> 01:17:35,19
restaurant so I think it's like one person
is going to hear so you have you know

972
01:17:35,20 --> 01:17:40,11
you have this but for some other. Mr
buildings Yeah and then the head of the

973
01:17:40,28 --> 01:17:41,13
alternative for

974
01:17:41,14 --> 01:17:45,14
a long time it was just this buffer zone
around every business which just was

975
01:17:45,15 --> 01:17:49,58
impossible like be a nightmare
to force especially in

976
01:17:49,59 --> 01:17:54,27
a more densely populated downtown area
where you know every door to the State of

977
01:17:54,28 --> 01:18:01,22
the L. Lana del Sol. During the same
way to get what we do have we have

978
01:18:01,23 --> 01:18:08,21
a town whose apparently looking into in
fact he makes our name. Take spent expand

979
01:18:08,22 --> 01:18:15,16
the buffer zone to. Do this to this food
service establishment or we end retail

980
01:18:15,17 --> 01:18:19,44
food because having trouble with one of
the supermarkets I'd leave so that is

981
01:18:19,45 --> 01:18:24,32
something that you people all know you can
go through he had this thing about how

982
01:18:24,33 --> 01:18:29,28
that plays out better than I can but that
might DIA possible thing the other thing

983
01:18:29,29 --> 01:18:34,41
too is he saw about. Eighty percent of
the city and just some of the gas train

984
01:18:34,92 --> 01:18:40,73
somewhere else here. But maybe they're right
as an area he would have to move on so

985
01:18:40,86 --> 01:18:42,38
we have just as a just as

986
01:18:42,39 --> 01:18:46,59
a side we're having to listen to us what
each other like with us things and the

987
01:18:46,60 --> 01:18:52,47
smoke was probably just outside the toilets
and it could also do or so have like

988
01:18:52,48 --> 01:18:58,68
who on the things on the run the not the
doors here the wind it was really good

989
01:18:58,69 --> 01:18:58,95
there is

990
01:18:58,96 --> 01:19:04,00
a small but it comes out for three because
it's like good yeah it was so I wouldn't

991
01:19:04,01 --> 01:19:10,21
go to the roof with no sides yet they're
also the data to the table then they're

992
01:19:10,22 --> 01:19:14,03
good provision they could drink their
beer out there as long as there is

993
01:19:14,14 --> 01:19:19,78
a hidden fish to their roots.
Yeah so that's the one that is

994
01:19:19,79 --> 01:19:23,75
a buffer zone the other things I had at
that site that we do have towns that

995
01:19:23,76 --> 01:19:29,62
actually save wherever your liquor license
extends to here OK you know it's just

996
01:19:29,71 --> 01:19:30,37
it's really

997
01:19:30,38 --> 01:19:35,49
a shame that the city only uses just I mean
Mr and I guess for you but you know in

998
01:19:36,39 --> 01:19:39,78
just to speak. From what I heard Clinton's

999
01:19:40,09 --> 01:19:46,47
a couple of the places that we haven't
wanted outside dying one of them was for.

1000
01:19:48,37 --> 01:19:50,76
The custard is this when we stop

1001
01:19:50,82 --> 01:19:55,85
a line is drawn and you have this issue
yes come back to me. All right one of the

1002
01:19:55,86 --> 01:19:59,88
two that I know one of the problems with
smoking outside it is you know it's one

1003
01:19:59,89 --> 01:20:05,23
thing in the winter the smokes and wouldn't
go no they don't have the air if it's

1004
01:20:05,27 --> 01:20:05,90
too bad if you're

1005
01:20:05,91 --> 01:20:09,56
a smoker in the winter because they don't
have I done right but it but in the

1006
01:20:09,57 --> 01:20:14,59
spring as it were spring summer and fall
the good the restaurant windows open and

1007
01:20:14,60 --> 01:20:20,38
people are standing outside smoking is the
responsibility of the restaurant to make

1008
01:20:20,39 --> 01:20:25,71
sure that that smoke doesn't mind grit so
as I said I think you have never taken

1009
01:20:25,72 --> 01:20:32,19
somewhere else town is pretty good in the
places that I know of. Yet either they

1010
01:20:32,20 --> 01:20:37,22
have or I don't know how many are in it
is like you're saying anything to you

1011
01:20:37,35 --> 01:20:42,95
windows etc that they were smoking back or
right wiring how it would mean something

1012
01:20:42,96 --> 01:20:45,91
like that product logically if
they say in two words that are in

1013
01:20:45,92 --> 01:20:50,99
a shit like that and so. I should.

1014
01:20:57,10 --> 01:20:58,70
Just. Answer

1015
01:20:58,71 --> 01:21:03,79
a private club question its way the subject
so let me just tell you what happened

1016
01:21:03,80 --> 01:21:10,16
state like. Years ago the city of ass all
the answer to private clubs that went to

1017
01:21:10,17 --> 01:21:14,91
the Supreme Judicial Court and also one
that came to before the asshole board house

1018
01:21:14,92 --> 01:21:18,64
because restaurants and bars are claiming
that these private clubs were attacking

1019
01:21:18,65 --> 01:21:23,52
my proposal that unlike bars public bars
and I'm trying to find the list because

1020
01:21:23,53 --> 01:21:30,09
I'm sitting here right here.
And I'm going flat out. Yeah

1021
01:21:30,15 --> 01:21:36,19
so so I will say that the the reason is
that we typically see people adding to the

1022
01:21:36,20 --> 01:21:42,94
list and we know. They can fit in even
fifty cities and towns have the same

1023
01:21:42,95 --> 01:21:46,91
place and see the restaurant birth come
forward and say we're getting sick of them

1024
01:21:47,06 --> 01:21:51,01
taking our business or we have private
has actually come forward and say we can

1025
01:21:51,02 --> 01:21:54,62
decide amongst ourselves but if you make
us do it and be the bad guy with that

1026
01:21:55,16 --> 01:22:00,07
stuff it sounds like you may be getting
both ways. I would say at this point the

1027
01:22:00,08 --> 01:22:06,14
thing that may make sense is separate
from the as maybe maybe if you did if you

1028
01:22:06,15 --> 01:22:09,56
were to move forward the sales of tobacco
do that separately and then maybe in the

1029
01:22:09,57 --> 01:22:14,83
future look at the secondhand smoke let
the private clubs know that you are that

1030
01:22:14,84 --> 01:22:18,40
you want them to be part of the public
hearing on it and come in and talk about it

1031
01:22:18,91 --> 01:22:22,16
you'll be firey will suck up to
us reality away but it'll be

1032
01:22:22,17 --> 01:22:25,93
a good fish better be good to hear what
they found because you've made actually

1033
01:22:25,94 --> 01:22:29,95
find that they're really like well OK if
you just make everybody do it you can live

1034
01:22:29,96 --> 01:22:35,78
with you know you're an attorney or you
and so you want to do. So but I would say

1035
01:22:35,79 --> 01:22:41,52
make that separate because it'll just it's
in the room something of your book is

1036
01:22:42,33 --> 01:22:47,92
probably close but we you know oddly enough
we have people coming forward saying

1037
01:22:48,21 --> 01:22:54,02
our. At loggerheads at their own
club but if you do it. And it is

1038
01:22:54,03 --> 01:22:58,69
a night the State Rep The state law that
allows smoking and perhaps that exception

1039
01:22:58,73 --> 01:22:58,87
is

1040
01:22:58,88 --> 01:23:05,03
a nightmare. Because it's poorly done these
private clubs are organised or at physically

1041
01:23:05,04 --> 01:23:07,17
me that to walk to school

1042
01:23:07,21 --> 01:23:11,41
a lot of times people going back and
forth to the showers you know it's going

1043
01:23:11,42 --> 01:23:12,49
against the area like

1044
01:23:12,50 --> 01:23:18,74
a very hostile to the resolution of the
rental for if you know you know. And the

1045
01:23:18,75 --> 01:23:24,30
other thing too is the state law actually
says that they hire anybody who is not

1046
01:23:24,31 --> 01:23:30,68
a full time who's not are employed this
gets to be smoke free so my typical list is

1047
01:23:31,03 --> 01:23:35,06
hire the belly dancer the caterer
or the thing they have to.

1048
01:23:38,22 --> 01:23:43,71
Think you will be and. You have a
great example this is because he's

1049
01:23:43,72 --> 01:23:48,45
a let people down complacent here
they said the lecture. They have

1050
01:23:48,46 --> 01:23:51,32
a lecture series. This is

1051
01:23:51,69 --> 01:23:56,27
a this is very good to be sure it's really
something you both still talk over your

1052
01:23:56,28 --> 01:24:00,16
checklist of the year we moved to the
different league just feel free to e-mail us

1053
01:24:00,17 --> 01:24:00,32
with

1054
01:24:00,33 --> 01:24:07,40
a future question. What will they do good
morning to begin to sort of take it once

1055
01:24:07,41 --> 01:24:14,23
with him yes we will see us our good
night sorry again for. The next

1056
01:24:14,99 --> 01:24:21,88
thank you for the snow cervical spring
snowstorm. The remembers the main rule is

1057
01:24:21,89 --> 01:24:26,11
that all you do oh over
the years I would think

1058
01:24:26,12 --> 01:24:32,46
a bit I do remember when I least the snow
leaves on him and. Looks clear it was

1059
01:24:32,47 --> 01:24:34,23
a moment ago I was going to have

1060
01:24:34,24 --> 01:24:38,76
a really good seventy eight hours after
that book will serve as you know I love to

1061
01:24:38,85 --> 01:24:42,50
come over here there's snow
here repeated Ray I get

1062
01:24:42,51 --> 01:24:48,76
a lot of wheat in you like
we. Didn't know he was my.

1063
01:24:51,11 --> 01:24:54,27
Thank you very much a
real doctor that you have

1064
01:24:54,28 --> 01:25:00,71
a stake on. Make sure. Your
shoes brothers are all

1065
01:25:01,03 --> 01:25:07,50
well firings from here on
this ring. And then our.

1066
01:25:08,92 --> 01:25:14,70
Thanks to what they were.
Both I think just like.

1067
01:25:17,45 --> 01:25:24,44
All else life. Is to do you know. Look at

1068
01:25:24,45 --> 01:25:30,52
crowning is is that I've.
Found America or really here.

1069
01:25:31,83 --> 01:25:38,65
They are he says yes I worry the only work
that really. Really man President what

1070
01:25:38,66 --> 01:25:44,18
we've already done Robin Meade's
probably all of your past work.

1071
01:25:45,46 --> 01:25:50,80
Allows us to be our regular trash
collection. Not so it gets.

1072
01:25:51,97 --> 01:25:58,84
Messy fusing and. What I guess I
was just going to have suggest is

1073
01:25:58,85 --> 01:25:59,78
that you know doing

1074
01:25:59,82 --> 01:26:06,00
a lot over as far as give out variances.
Well I think can I just interrupt you

1075
01:26:06,01 --> 01:26:12,05
second I think the majority of these were
because they were miss class. You know

1076
01:26:12,55 --> 01:26:12,87
you know

1077
01:26:12,91 --> 01:26:18,92
a lot of them back her just like you know
the apartment building you know has the I

1078
01:26:18,93 --> 01:26:23,15
mean the House it has a Business Insider
bit where the apartment building that has

1079
01:26:23,16 --> 01:26:28,87
a business with it that's where our man
or your group with his several different

1080
01:26:28,88 --> 01:26:33,24
types of Xander said Mother wants Yeah
but they were originally we had just

1081
01:26:33,25 --> 01:26:34,60
misquotes which oceans like

1082
01:26:34,61 --> 01:26:38,12
a Geiger shed the backyard of it so with
things other than that it was considered

1083
01:26:38,13 --> 01:26:42,86
commercial property but there's also
commercial residences there are kids right

1084
01:26:42,99 --> 01:26:43,25
that have

1085
01:26:43,26 --> 01:26:46,41
a residential property above them and then
there was the drug trade where there are

1086
01:26:46,42 --> 01:26:50,32
two problems above that you're forced to
get from dumpster I mean. That there was

1087
01:26:50,59 --> 01:26:54,34
not more than one more before we bust five
or six different various types that we

1088
01:26:54,35 --> 01:26:59,77
do you know based on what we do when the
original relationship with so I'm just

1089
01:27:00,24 --> 01:27:06,78
ingesting we go to the areas or at least
there are questions in the board of

1090
01:27:06,82 --> 01:27:13,80
regulation which says that these use
property must have their own separate

1091
01:27:14,31 --> 01:27:21,11
personal travel site the. Best
the one thing and the other part

1092
01:27:21,15 --> 01:27:27,36
to this is what happened was I
doing all this time giving out

1093
01:27:28,17 --> 01:27:34,85
toters or. Home Network
head for Carmine's or

1094
01:27:34,86 --> 01:27:41,40
less. And then the assessor's
office came in last many

1095
01:27:41,75 --> 01:27:47,52
years ago. And had been out doing an
assessment of the property is all these

1096
01:27:47,53 --> 01:27:54,48
tellers and hanging it said these are the
excesses after sunset mountable parcels

1097
01:27:54,96 --> 01:27:55,18
are

1098
01:27:55,19 --> 01:28:01,80
a lot of one taxable as commercial. So that
I didn't confuse We had letters go out

1099
01:28:01,81 --> 01:28:08,62
of love and people said. We
missed we must do it the way

1100
01:28:08,63 --> 01:28:15,34
your priority is being listed and he
ended up here in the meantime Mr Hicks

1101
01:28:15,71 --> 01:28:22,59
in hand and presented me with
this letter and Sarah so I

1102
01:28:22,60 --> 01:28:28,54
had stock you know I haven't taken any
coders away except for around this one of

1103
01:28:28,55 --> 01:28:33,38
the properties in foreclosure is totally
empty right now and there was one other

1104
01:28:33,39 --> 01:28:38,95
car in the night seven buildings on it
grow and three five is only like two

1105
01:28:39,00 --> 01:28:45,10
occupied units I have to offer right now
who's. So you know these other ones have

1106
01:28:45,11 --> 01:28:50,88
been taken away but I need to go back
now and say to these people we made

1107
01:28:50,89 --> 01:28:54,84
a mistake you have a right to tell
her the trouble is he is just

1108
01:28:54,85 --> 01:29:01,31
a sock it is in our rights don't
connect us to your country looking at

1109
01:29:01,32 --> 01:29:06,72
surprisingly. So that's what happened
over a commercial that will serve on

1110
01:29:06,73 --> 01:29:12,36
a business works you know because not
one hundred means that. As Jessica said

1111
01:29:12,37 --> 01:29:15,25
examine all who only two or three houses

1112
01:29:15,26 --> 01:29:20,54
a lot they consider that
way. However there are.

1113
01:29:22,03 --> 01:29:28,79
People it is considered her.
Is what is the definition of

1114
01:29:28,86 --> 01:29:32,78
dealer who lives there because I think
in one of these examples Melanie lives

1115
01:29:32,79 --> 01:29:37,64
theory it's I don't know anything about
that I'm just saying I think you have his

1116
01:29:37,65 --> 01:29:39,01
golf ball out on

1117
01:29:39,11 --> 01:29:45,80
a lot. Of the back brick like and
personal. Here this one tax bill

1118
01:29:46,66 --> 01:29:47,83
so I was just

1119
01:29:47,87 --> 01:29:54,50
a major piece of computer. So I was
playing too much in time to keep that

1120
01:29:54,88 --> 01:29:58,02
occurs. When you start playing now.

1121
01:30:03,54 --> 01:30:07,23
So. I guess isn't good for the product for

1122
01:30:07,24 --> 01:30:11,43
a while as well you know that amount so you
get more and you know in the end I can

1123
01:30:11,44 --> 01:30:16,12
do I can sympathize with the frustration
does this individual did agree with your

1124
01:30:16,13 --> 01:30:21,64
hand in and in documenting
everything and you probably infirmed

1125
01:30:21,65 --> 01:30:27,46
a couple of these things that you could.
Right on you confirm get over happened if

1126
01:30:27,47 --> 01:30:34,38
you have or we way look at the men you
know and like Max around it talked about

1127
01:30:35,07 --> 01:30:40,94
and it was I will inspire you to have
them table it and not over when it was

1128
01:30:40,95 --> 01:30:41,33
actually

1129
01:30:41,40 --> 01:30:46,75
a man A and nothing ever much to him but
that is deep so it's sort of like it was

1130
01:30:46,79 --> 01:30:52,88
open ended the of the thing that I had
concerns that my concern was and especially

1131
01:30:52,89 --> 01:30:54,00
when he was

1132
01:30:54,01 --> 01:30:57,37
a two thousand and four he came home from
the came home from vacation and found out

1133
01:30:57,38 --> 01:31:03,93
this trash was picked up and. I don't think
it would hurt if the board of health

1134
01:31:03,94 --> 01:31:04,16
made it

1135
01:31:04,17 --> 01:31:09,82
a policy not to stop anyone's trash pick
up that the they have an automatic appeal

1136
01:31:10,49 --> 01:31:15,89
we just don't stop because according to
what he said it just stopped the monastery

1137
01:31:15,89 --> 01:31:21,53
. And that might give a little
time or earlier for us as

1138
01:31:21,54 --> 01:31:23,13
a Board of Health necessities to see

1139
01:31:23,14 --> 01:31:28,69
a part where our definitions do work
together in the Right now our definition is

1140
01:31:28,73 --> 01:31:35,43
different we look at it like you meant.
Like meaning you have four units in my

1141
01:31:35,44 --> 01:31:42,32
building built in as for building lunar
property the assessor's office knows.

1142
01:31:43,72 --> 01:31:47,92
I just want to verbalize one frustration
that everyone is probably sickened me

1143
01:31:47,96 --> 01:31:53,72
saying them in the city to get us to go
this soup was taken out of our hands by the

1144
01:31:53,73 --> 01:31:55,45
town manager a year and

1145
01:31:55,46 --> 01:32:01,87
a half ago and I really think these things
should be addressed with the selectmen

1146
01:32:01,91 --> 01:32:08,71
and the town manager who wanted this
new trash. Program is there who are

1147
01:32:08,89 --> 01:32:09,84
more of the navvies

1148
01:32:09,85 --> 01:32:14,58
a little bit confused by the whole burial
sensed this yes but this is sense the new

1149
01:32:14,59 --> 01:32:20,28
program has trashed ops you know how it
has it's more to do with fusion with more

1150
01:32:20,29 --> 01:32:26,82
Alberich and laid him. And
the fact that. It was

1151
01:32:26,83 --> 01:32:33,51
misinterpreted I get confused with
his AS because. I think I hear this.

1152
01:32:34,88 --> 01:32:41,26
And then realize. I didn't mistake
made this and he's saying that they

1153
01:32:41,56 --> 01:32:45,59
should have covered him as here OK it was

1154
01:32:45,60 --> 01:32:52,56
a misunderstanding how I was interviewing
me. So I called Bob about it the

1155
01:32:52,57 --> 01:32:58,46
day it happened. If really I know so I
wanted to believe that I was thinking of Oh

1156
01:32:58,47 --> 01:33:05,34
yeah I planned you know right from
this moment like hey. They're not good

1157
01:33:05,38 --> 01:33:11,94
and told me. That it there was to stay
in business and they're going to stay

1158
01:33:12,49 --> 01:33:18,26
here they should be happy. I was still
dragging the place I know what I do right

1159
01:33:18,27 --> 01:33:21,31
real barriers are put in this
is why you were told me there's

1160
01:33:21,32 --> 01:33:25,04
a little good friend of mine or the
struggle into recess to live in really just

1161
01:33:25,05 --> 01:33:30,79
really want to go to Syria this is going
to marry this was taken over there and

1162
01:33:31,17 --> 01:33:37,85
there he does America not line up this
was there before he was out for his or

1163
01:33:38,25 --> 01:33:43,24
or his or her answer to the radio Well this
is why I'm wondering if we should have

1164
01:33:43,24 --> 01:33:43,89
. Some type of

1165
01:33:43,90 --> 01:33:48,70
a thirty day appeal process right where we
start doing it that way there is enough

1166
01:33:48,71 --> 01:33:53,84
time if you are in the Bush forty six years
or you can paste I'm sorry again today

1167
01:33:53,96 --> 01:33:59,47
we are we are told it is and certain you
know residence is around the town yet we

1168
01:33:59,48 --> 01:34:04,30
don't say we don't send a letter that he
was able to take them without giving them

1169
01:34:04,31 --> 01:34:10,55
a thirty day process because like we
found out it was an hour that there was

1170
01:34:10,56 --> 01:34:13,83
a misunderstanding Yeah
yeah I heard I think it's

1171
01:34:13,84 --> 01:34:18,07
a good idea to end for this gentlemen that
and then I don't know how long it went

1172
01:34:18,08 --> 01:34:24,75
on vacation exactly no I'm planning on two
thousand dollars I don't know but do you

1173
01:34:24,76 --> 01:34:28,84
know with the exception of people who can
do that less than one takes of more than

1174
01:34:28,85 --> 01:34:31,49
a month vacation I'd love to get him

1175
01:34:31,50 --> 01:34:36,03
a little I know yes because that he did not
really but I'm wondering if thirty days

1176
01:34:36,04 --> 01:34:42,26
is on the appropriate I think you're being
very you know if you or I missed the

1177
01:34:42,27 --> 01:34:47,57
pivotal you feel so good to think that
I have to say I will take off from

1178
01:34:47,58 --> 01:34:54,06
a rack with all of you. And secondly I

1179
01:34:54,33 --> 01:35:00,73
believe. It goes again where

1180
01:35:01,70 --> 01:35:07,53
can I disagree but for now when you hear
of these it says the residence is three

1181
01:35:07,54 --> 01:35:13,61
family and under your son for him his. Are
supposed to be three families from your

1182
01:35:13,61 --> 01:35:19,44
. Current group and Roger with like
Iowa true family and are it was.

1183
01:35:21,09 --> 01:35:24,77
Going to be an overall success
prevail is rather not for him and.

1184
01:35:27,85 --> 01:35:33,31
Very often the truth. Telling
of his great great father.

1185
01:35:35,54 --> 01:35:41,28
Would be officers remember him well do
we need to vote yeah I think you were

1186
01:35:41,29 --> 01:35:45,21
mentioned was a motivator to
both of them. Order to request

1187
01:35:45,22 --> 01:35:51,16
a thirty day stay of execution before
anybody played the ball with what I'll see

1188
01:35:51,17 --> 01:35:57,63
the actually bigger guys that are there
see it that basically the trash truck

1189
01:35:58,44 --> 01:36:04,34
and I second that I can't go to my disposal
I can't work for you just for today

1190
01:36:04,87 --> 01:36:08,64
your truck told me to marry you Terri
Moulton says that before you consider it

1191
01:36:08,78 --> 01:36:14,95
a motion that you just want to. Provide
for track purposes that we would

1192
01:36:15,22 --> 01:36:17,38
allow a thirty day stay of execution

1193
01:36:17,39 --> 01:36:22,47
a very or removal of charge services or
anything to do with our services for thirty

1194
01:36:22,48 --> 01:36:29,21
days before any action taken against the
taxpayer or best of the product and

1195
01:36:29,22 --> 01:36:36,18
hand. In Motion it's not going to
be for the sake. Of everything

1196
01:36:36,19 --> 01:36:42,85
are right. But as there is
your. Right and I'm the only

1197
01:36:42,86 --> 01:36:48,59
stay and see variance and yeah execute
simple yes no right but you know it's right

1198
01:36:48,76 --> 01:36:54,49
but it. Was me.

1199
01:36:56,11 --> 01:37:00,19
You can't listen to people say I heard you
do that way every witness for the good

1200
01:37:00,20 --> 01:37:07,00
of the multitasking we really.
Do have power they go. Oh

1201
01:37:07,01 --> 01:37:08,64
yeah kind of business A.O.L.

1202
01:37:09,40 --> 01:37:15,91
Is fact not given any more
variances. Because And in my memory.

1203
01:37:17,09 --> 01:37:22,81
The variances were given it's been because
of. Misclassification maybe I just leave

1204
01:37:22,82 --> 01:37:29,00
it like that leave out leave out the
others. But I would I would not want to

1205
01:37:29,41 --> 01:37:36,25
penalize some of my friends be. Eligible
may have been misclassified going forward

1206
01:37:36,25 --> 01:37:42,06
. I think it's your right
this classified versus.

1207
01:37:43,08 --> 01:37:47,51
Say and what. Are your growing what with

1208
01:37:47,52 --> 01:37:51,80
a bit OK So I think there is there at least
certain lines that yes have been his

1209
01:37:51,95 --> 01:37:55,61
last and I So for example one of the think
of one in particular the set they had

1210
01:37:55,62 --> 01:37:58,14
a business in the they haven't
had a business for X.

1211
01:37:58,15 --> 01:37:59,18
Money years that wasn't

1212
01:37:59,19 --> 01:38:05,94
a variance it was just clarification
hands OK I see. Really spoke we

1213
01:38:05,95 --> 01:38:12,43
need. And I think. We're going
to do less you are unable.

1214
01:38:13,80 --> 01:38:20,46
Yeah it was really my book which is going
to also take on OK because we've heard

1215
01:38:20,72 --> 01:38:27,38
this from. APRIL twenty years which
is I didn't do anything with it or it

1216
01:38:27,83 --> 01:38:32,87
is the clean up you know Saturday and the
Saturday I'm sat here the election that's

1217
01:38:32,88 --> 01:38:39,25
why these that didn't least least. You
can also sign up online go to say sages

1218
01:38:39,26 --> 01:38:45,59
website you can sign up online but children
want to. Bring stuff is at the station

1219
01:38:45,60 --> 01:38:50,32
OK if you want to participate and help you
know. Always looking for volunteers we

1220
01:38:50,33 --> 01:38:55,53
had one person that wants to float around
on an island Grove and pick up trash in

1221
01:38:55,54 --> 01:39:00,74
the water and along the shore when I heard
about it and I said I know some really

1222
01:39:00,75 --> 01:39:06,22
appreciate that I'll go with the farm but
I didn't tell him I said you might you

1223
01:39:06,23 --> 01:39:10,32
know normally Department guy showed me the
machine that they use he told me they

1224
01:39:10,33 --> 01:39:14,36
had and I found it hard to believe because
he told me they had just used that

1225
01:39:14,37 --> 01:39:18,70
machine that showed me pictures had took
garbage out of the lake just just along

1226
01:39:18,71 --> 01:39:24,60
with the Play Station as OK they don't use
that machine anywhere else and like just

1227
01:39:24,61 --> 01:39:30,73
across from the police station. But there
was this I mean I walked over there that

1228
01:39:30,86 --> 01:39:32,88
I'm like I took a ton of pictures I have

1229
01:39:32,89 --> 01:39:37,06
a cell phone to look like anything that
ever been you know just there's garbage in

1230
01:39:37,07 --> 01:39:41,03
that lake I went along there and threw
it all over the fence so that and that's

1231
01:39:41,04 --> 01:39:44,83
a new thing to this year that we we haven't
had anyone over to do that for the

1232
01:39:44,84 --> 01:39:48,93
clean and sober and I'm going to like you
know going back to the early stages when

1233
01:39:48,94 --> 01:39:54,20
George nine or one you know one to one mind
then it grew out of you anyway names we

1234
01:39:54,21 --> 01:39:59,06
want to sort of keep clear ninety one April
twentieth to police station anything

1235
01:39:59,07 --> 01:40:03,01
rude or anything with it would We'll say
we're trying to return your mother it's

1236
01:40:03,02 --> 01:40:08,11
official we know class no clothes will suit
and tie and it got so around town it's

1237
01:40:08,12 --> 01:40:12,78
what people have done some should if people
have done time in or around town there

1238
01:40:12,79 --> 01:40:18,56
will be a trailer at Sullivan
that we write is great as

1239
01:40:18,57 --> 01:40:22,92
a compost sale but I think it's already
scheduled remarks to marry your own with

1240
01:40:22,93 --> 01:40:28,18
openness is what are clear and this is
not going to leave us to be going really

1241
01:40:28,23 --> 01:40:34,01
really nerdy here you are. Going to have
as we get I'm trying to tell you what

1242
01:40:34,02 --> 01:40:37,84
weekends have been busy that we should
never reviews going to con the Crimea is

1243
01:40:37,85 --> 01:40:41,77
clean up in the twenty seventh
his election so sure of

1244
01:40:41,89 --> 01:40:48,60
a level you want to play no more
so than thirteen thirteen. Yeah

1245
01:40:49,31 --> 01:40:49,46
it's

1246
01:40:49,47 --> 01:40:55,66
a given it's time to let everyone in the
town know only. Fair and you go girl but

1247
01:40:55,67 --> 01:40:58,26
it's a label thirteen one I've never had

1248
01:40:58,27 --> 01:41:02,70
a problem laughs Yeah we just want to be
really clear what would you like to see

1249
01:41:03,25 --> 01:41:07,96
what time do we tell the players thirteen
to them it's like Wow So we just have to

1250
01:41:07,97 --> 01:41:13,41
make sure the that's going to be here and
I'm like you know if we can get that OK

1251
01:41:14,22 --> 01:41:15,56
and because I really had a track

1252
01:41:15,57 --> 01:41:20,15
a lot of people you know like an EXACT same
way we had last I think that works out

1253
01:41:20,16 --> 01:41:26,55
really well which was to clarify if I'm
in the back or my office has an. And you

1254
01:41:26,56 --> 01:41:30,90
know how it was man you're
OK and we have to take

1255
01:41:30,91 --> 01:41:37,16
a break here the rooster really good
vaccinated and legal all that's virtually the

1256
01:41:37,20 --> 01:41:39,60
issue here but what was great it was

1257
01:41:39,61 --> 01:41:46,49
a good stuff series and they can also
license or die you know and forever life

1258
01:41:46,81 --> 01:41:52,21
at places that don't get mad and backs and
certainly didn't write your tell here is

1259
01:41:52,22 --> 01:41:57,06
No No Yes I have done some stuff highway
department and in fact in the I had talked

1260
01:41:57,07 --> 01:42:01,12
to the town acting town clerk and she
wanted to know wouldn't it was going to be

1261
01:42:01,13 --> 01:42:05,57
easy if you let me hear back and say you
let her novel out and didn't do we have to

1262
01:42:05,58 --> 01:42:11,44
vote last year and look the hourly rate
was we did this review and every month

1263
01:42:11,50 --> 01:42:17,35
although you know that didn't pay her that
here she's are. Well sure she was not

1264
01:42:17,91 --> 01:42:23,18
that's right so she should be doing this
for nothing here we should do it I can't

1265
01:42:23,24 --> 01:42:24,30
take her B.S.

1266
01:42:24,36 --> 01:42:30,38
And we and the line items that or know
that last year when she had it on to your

1267
01:42:30,39 --> 01:42:35,90
list she says she was in Florida and she
wasn't and he was the clerk working her

1268
01:42:35,91 --> 01:42:41,75
tired child clerk which is about time and
half he's Templer So she's gone from five

1269
01:42:41,76 --> 01:42:46,23
time to full time and that's going to you
know he was always full time later should

1270
01:42:46,24 --> 01:42:52,81
at least she's now acting out for her
last few with the clerk so acting temp

1271
01:42:52,82 --> 01:42:59,76
workers salary. The other positions are
really set the definable I know because I

1272
01:43:00,02 --> 01:43:05,32
But I think I know I don't have anything
to pay her for well we paid her last year

1273
01:43:05,33 --> 01:43:07,74
so I I I I have

1274
01:43:07,75 --> 01:43:11,91
a problem telling someone to come in and
work for nothing while I wonder to me does

1275
01:43:12,36 --> 01:43:17,73
all this is that is it Leon was it you
know it was that you would be able to deal

1276
01:43:17,74 --> 01:43:23,51
with it or show up with her drinking and I
cannot I can't hear the kids through the

1277
01:43:23,52 --> 01:43:24,22
tell me that you're

1278
01:43:24,23 --> 01:43:27,38
a literal for Bonjour bridge or for three
hours. To work during the week to do

1279
01:43:27,39 --> 01:43:30,95
three hours work in the Saudi was wrong
to do it but only if the town manager of

1280
01:43:30,96 --> 01:43:36,21
a town like that I want to pay her to do
it right Constantine to assure them but

1281
01:43:36,22 --> 01:43:39,72
that needs to come from the flock from the
prime minister not from Oregon right now

1282
01:43:39,73 --> 01:43:45,66
but so we will never get out of this we
won't make it mandatory I'm sorry I am not

1283
01:43:45,78 --> 01:43:52,60
unique I answered and asked her if she wants
to do it oh. We have shows and if you

1284
01:43:52,61 --> 01:43:57,20
want your way out and get ready and. Puts

1285
01:43:57,21 --> 01:44:01,03
a sheet on if they want to get their money
that is then what will or whatever they

1286
01:44:01,04 --> 01:44:04,48
came to because I think there was some she
did really well actually by the member

1287
01:44:04,49 --> 01:44:09,16
of what you could actually mean choice
of the town to do that. You know because

1288
01:44:09,17 --> 01:44:12,74
what it all very good
novels are. Still I have

1289
01:44:12,75 --> 01:44:17,11
a question why do you have to license dogs
to look up turn around I don't know we

1290
01:44:17,12 --> 01:44:20,97
should change this look into that next
needle because you give them rabies shots so

1291
01:44:20,98 --> 01:44:26,89
I just wonder why they don't have to be
licensed. Also become more money than I

1292
01:44:26,90 --> 01:44:32,85
care to yes will do good morning they have
to keep your cats out of my. Workouts

1293
01:44:32,86 --> 01:44:37,50
and I hope nobody loves me I had to make
good in my door gets Surely this is the

1294
01:44:37,82 --> 01:44:44,07
truth that I just want to go
through with the. World that. We.

1295
01:44:46,34 --> 01:44:47,05
Already poked

1296
01:44:47,06 --> 01:44:51,51
a treat and there's nothing terribly
exciting I think planning to do for

1297
01:44:52,01 --> 01:44:54,54
a trip leader I really wanted to be

1298
01:44:54,55 --> 01:45:00,92
a good. Thing I am wired
to do this of course

1299
01:45:01,57 --> 01:45:08,54
is that the greater part of the fate.
Of these three types of course is

1300
01:45:09,21 --> 01:45:16,00
that. I also was just. Going on

1301
01:45:16,35 --> 01:45:20,98
vacation next week Luke
wouldn't let me help you can.

1302
01:45:24,02 --> 01:45:28,71
You go on vacation next week
yes no absolutely not yet kid.

1303
01:45:31,24 --> 01:45:37,36
Saturday I'm doing all day training your
experience more here then you're on

1304
01:45:37,37 --> 01:45:43,35
a training so I've got you and I don't know
you I get you're sorry. There are calls

1305
01:45:43,36 --> 01:45:50,27
for not no. And the one of the
dots for is this freedom yes. What

1306
01:45:50,28 --> 01:45:55,39
about the little legs in the water medal
remember all I have to go to the right

1307
01:45:55,40 --> 01:46:02,28
phrase for her here is we get quote me
and my cell phone and other great stuff

1308
01:46:03,05 --> 01:46:08,19
for that is it just to go to that because
those both have to do with the city that

1309
01:46:08,20 --> 01:46:11,31
never must. Have it Memphis has

1310
01:46:11,32 --> 01:46:17,84
a deliverable here we know.
Where they owe them around

1311
01:46:18,15 --> 01:46:24,45
the armory there are numerous and I see yes
example overhauled which is part of the

1312
01:46:24,46 --> 01:46:30,56
parents and that's why I bring him home.
I'm just trying to figure out ways to our

1313
01:46:30,64 --> 01:46:36,54
house that Tom says. There's anyone else
trying to get over though it's really hard

1314
01:46:36,55 --> 01:46:43,31
here because their entire record. I'm going
to be something on food for. The police

1315
01:46:43,32 --> 01:46:50,16
to each other next to. This is good and
there is for some you borrow or my anger

1316
01:46:50,20 --> 01:46:57,17
for all not her own. Ten or ten am. I
going to see images of them before

1317
01:46:57,18 --> 01:47:03,84
we really learn in the Senate in
emails. They experience. Where like

1318
01:47:04,17 --> 01:47:10,86
all. The real drill places people are on
all the outlets that you can use the phone

1319
01:47:10,90 --> 01:47:11,79
and they want for

1320
01:47:11,80 --> 01:47:18,38
a fact response yes it was over and we'll
get it again and again the last time they

1321
01:47:18,39 --> 01:47:23,07
called my home not as yet I think it must
sound of my e-mail I sent you back but

1322
01:47:23,11 --> 01:47:28,80
it's been changed oh no we changed before
and to some never know Leslie Yeah but

1323
01:47:28,81 --> 01:47:32,87
your article says on the on so I don't
want to I don't want us to get gig if they

1324
01:47:32,88 --> 01:47:33,44
claim is that

1325
01:47:33,45 --> 01:47:37,04
a number that we're going to be and when
they come you know I don't know families

1326
01:47:37,05 --> 01:47:42,34
over and over I will be here I don't know
I know you know all of us are there for

1327
01:47:43,21 --> 01:47:50,12
all the little good. OK if you also

1328
01:47:50,13 --> 01:47:55,92
help visions your book No you don't have
anything is this minute OK these are mine

1329
01:47:55,92 --> 01:48:00,58
. And I read them in the same
motions to do so and I mean as

1330
01:48:00,59 --> 01:48:07,56
a gesture on have to commend her for.
Her she must get nearer to you because

1331
01:48:07,57 --> 01:48:09,17
you're one of the exhibits tell me

1332
01:48:09,18 --> 01:48:15,71
a lot of the meeting but if you read it it
says on the bottom of it the following.

1333
01:48:17,56 --> 01:48:24,49
Items but they're not me. As far as
her my second post I read this as

1334
01:48:24,50 --> 01:48:31,13
an asking we did ask her if you
knew you. And I met in the

1335
01:48:31,24 --> 01:48:36,96
OFF CAN WE JUST A FEW of the list that we
had after the War ended up with her but

1336
01:48:37,18 --> 01:48:38,04
there you have to be

1337
01:48:38,05 --> 01:48:42,47
a tougher before it was going to
call you for that cafe but it was

1338
01:48:42,48 --> 01:48:48,49
a duel both for exotic dancer and lawyer
mode or the suggested around just that the

1339
01:48:48,50 --> 01:48:52,69
vote was just every vote of the minutes
then present what it was except the moves

1340
01:48:52,70 --> 01:48:53,94
were glories of house growth as

1341
01:48:53,95 --> 01:48:58,62
a list of what I will do so it was clear
as you know thank you and I appreciate

1342
01:48:58,63 --> 01:49:04,78
that when they got most of the motion to
accept the minutes of my work. With the

1343
01:49:04,79 --> 01:49:08,90
amendments you and the rains. Posts

1344
01:49:08,91 --> 01:49:15,83
a recycling program ready. Action of

1345
01:49:15,84 --> 01:49:22,71
their. Rights against motion executive
or of Israel there is there are as

1346
01:49:22,72 --> 01:49:26,82
valid as your girl. Or your award.

1347
01:49:31,05 --> 01:49:37,93
For. Instance to. These are the things.

1348
01:49:41,05 --> 01:49:47,91
We. Will look into during

1349
01:49:48,06 --> 01:49:54,14
oceans was very dark and heard most of
George ergo are all very sorry every second

1350
01:49:54,15 --> 01:50:01,06
your very good ocean is utterly virgin so
all they say are hi I'm your mother. Good

1351
01:50:01,07 --> 01:50:02,15
night good.